81 points

JD Vance as president is an even more terrifying thought.

Beware the Monkey Paw

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I see Vance as a half smart opportunist, not a full on Fascist.

I could be wrong.

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Younger generally means more hopeful and ambitious, so it really depends how much Peter Thiel has his hooks in him.

Vance at least has a non-white wife and is still on his first marriage so probably less bitter.

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As an aside I was looking up everyone involved with founding PayPal. What a collective bunch of shit stains they are.

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7 points

Trump isn’t smart either. He’s just a figure head.

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12 points

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellisicky/2020/10/03/how-donald-trump-took-down-bonwit-teller-a-fifth-avenue-landmark/

At the time Trump built his Tower, Jackie Kennedy was working to preserve Grand Central station in Manhattan. Trump had a golden opportunity to get in good with the most influential taste maker in the country, and blew it because he’s a greedy idiot and a vulgarian.

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6 points

Vance is a fucking monarchist.

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7 points

icymi, JD Vance is a vassal of Peter Thiel.

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Could be. otoh, the big chair changes people. Some grow into the job.

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59 points

I’m from Germany, so my exposure to US politics is limited (yet still way too much). So, I happened to watch/listen to the new york times podcast interview with vance about 1-2 weeks before the election. Mind you, before that I assumed he was an awkward idiot because all I knew about him was the doughnut thing, laughing at his own joke, and the couch thing. So I basically only tuned in to hear that weird ass man speak for once.

Apart from the shitty interviewer, I was shocked to find that he would charm me every couple of minutes. Saying people change their minds, people make mistakes, explaining where he is coming from, talking about his wife. This was not who I expected. And I had to remind myself a couple of times: this dude is up to no good. Listen to what he is not saying. Don’t get sucked into this madness.

But damn he sounded so normal. So human. (Especially in contrast to the stuff I heard about him before.) And since then, I am honestly worried about this guy. I am definitely on the left spectrum politically speaking, and I still found some stuff relatable just by the way he talked. This scared me so much.

So I agree with you, I think he is an opportunist. And he actually knows what he is doing. I think he knows how to act and speak much better than the left US media tried to portray. They try to ridicule someone who is a very elaborate politician, and this can backfire so much, it’s dangerous. Don’t ridicule the devil in power. I believe if he wanted to, he could wrap a lot of people around his finger.

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11 points

I agree. He has done a great job managing his career. We’ll see what happens

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If you look at the election prediction history graph on Nate Silver’s substack, you see an upwards trajectory for Trump/Vance ever since the vice-presidential debate. That was also when the “Republicans are weird” narrative that was working so well for Harris/Walz abruptly left the discourse. And I believe that what happened was that Republicans who were embarrassed by Vance as well as Trump had a moment like you describe where he suddenly didn’t seem so unrelatable and that right there sunk the Dems… as much as it pains me to admit it, because I’d much rather have a party that wins on the issues and communicates clearly how insane and risky it was to vote for literal autocracy, the Harris campaign probably made the wrong choice with Walz and never should have stopped mocking Republicans for being “weird.”

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2 points

Nah he’s a slightly more knowledgeable clown who is even more eager to do what the money backers want

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4 points

I don’t know, is there a lot of couch in the white house, must take some time for him to introduce himself to all of them?

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2 points

Theoretically there’s nothing stopping Trump from being president from prison.

There’s no rule that says a dog can’t play basketball.

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222 points

Fun to think about, but I can promise that Trump will never see consequences for his actions. Everything just miraculously slides right off of him.

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Like a convcted felon president elect is going to give 2 shits about new york, or laws in general.

He’ll get a judge to pause all this shit until later. A good lawyer knows the law, a great lawyer knows the judge.

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A great Russian Mafia knows the judge’s and prosecutor’s kids 🔪

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And where the nearest window is when they refuse the tea

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4 points

Every time there’s talks about it I think about The fall of the house of Usher

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4 points

He’ll just stay out of New York until his coronation

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31 points

Yeah, he’ll just get his 6/3 Supreme Court majority to rule that the president is also immune to state crimes like they already ruled for federal crime.

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25 points

LegalEagle on YouTube says it’s basically done. He will never see jail.

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3 points

Cheat codes

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First presidential act from prison: kill the judge. Second: free himself regardless of law.

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384 points

Interesting.

When a billionaire is sentenced to prison, and then actually has to go to prison, it’s called a “legal loophole”.

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147 points

My first thought was “So we call ‘following the law’ a loophole now?”

If the law meant a fucking thing, he would have been in prison decades ago.

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32 points

WHY did it take this long to get around to it? So bizarre.

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16 points

'The voters are going to reject him and then we don’t have to go through all this messy business if prosecution."

It’s the moral elevation of inaction for its own sake above action for any reason.

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29 points

In a word: Garland.

In two words: Merrick Garland

In three words: fucking Merrick Garland

In four words: fucking Merrick “Slowclown” Garland

In five words: establishment hack as attorney general.

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24 points

I am convinced that if Kamala won Trump would have started an armed insurgency. Well, this would definitely about do it.

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If Kamala won, he’d at most get a nice private prison that’d basically a rich people’s fancy retirement home, with access to amenities like tweeting from his “truth” social so its basically not different than being not having a prison sentence at all. But most likely he’d not even get prison, but a house-arrest with very relaxed restriction, because the judicial system will make up some excuse saying its impractical to keep a former president in prison citing “safety concerns”.

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Nobody is going to put an elected present in jail. It’s game over.

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