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You don’t get to cut emission likes this, you will stop eating meat tho so better people can fly on private jets. They deserve it, peasants don’t deserve anything. Slave bitches!

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Well, meat eating should be cut way down; ideally to zero. But we’ll always have this disparity where some people will live better. It doesn’t mean the answer is to do nothing at all about systemic issues like meat.

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Correct peasants do all the things while better people do their jet setting and meat eating ;)

This is only fair

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That’s probably primarily a consequence of bad zoning and transportation policy in the U.S - higher density zoning and public transportation/cycling infrastructure would address this more than enough.

Slapping a WFH-band aid on top of this mess doesn’t really address the root cause. That’s not to say you shouldn’t be able to WFH - work whichever way suits you best - but I don’t find this particular argument compelling as for a reason to advocate for WFH.

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100% agree, we (the US) truly need better city layouts and public transportation. However, it’s nice to see more arguments that are “pro WFH” that aren’t just talking about the employees themselves or productivity. Not that it’s likely to change the path of management but it’s still welcome.

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Interesting. When the impact of individuals on the environment is discussed, a huge number of users here can’t stress enough how the effort of the people doesn’t matter and is irrelevant.

Stop eating meat and dairy, not buying plastic wrapped stuff, using public transport,… That’s all of no use and no one should even dare to mention it since this is all just propaganda by big corporations.

Unless it’s about home office. Suddenly there is great agreement that we have to do home office to save the climate! It almost seems like for a lot of people it’s not so much about protecting the climate, but about not taking up responsibility when it’s uncomfortable.

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Stop eating meat and dairy,

SURE!!! Because aside from the fact of all the carbon-neutral farms out there at this point, which aside from them going that way for tax credits is irrelevant, that actually puts back into the soil and regenerates our literally dead soil. Pretty different story from all the mono-cropping destruction that’s happening otherwise.

But those evil cow farts right??? When cows aren’t fed trash corn and grain and actually graze on grass like they’re supposed to, the gas isn’t a problem, not that it is anyways. But then you’d lose the talking point for plant based eating, wouldn’t ya? Most emmisions are from transportation, which is happening either way. Nice try.

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People who live in caves all the time cut emissions by 95%.

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This is far better: People who live without social media all the time cut emissions by 66%.

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People who eat more beans cut the cheese.

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Only at first

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People who die cut emissions 100%

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Wouldn’t the decay of one’s be a source of emission?

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Yeah but that only takes a couple months even in bad conditions.

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The main causes of remote workers’ reduced emissions were less office energy use, as well as fewer emissions from a daily commute.

I mean yeah, that makes sense,

But I wonder what the numbers are when it comes to everyone keeping their homes heated/cooled all day compared to communal heating/cooling of a building.

People working at home will increase their personal emissions to keep their home office heated/cooled, and I suspect you get more bang for your energy buck if they are all in one spot instead of spread out into multiple buildings.

So sure… less office energy use, but increased home energy use…

I wonder how the study calculated that or even bothered…

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In the US, people typically drive cars to work. These cars are 3000-6000 pounds that move 20-30 miles by burning oiil at 25% efficiency while also polluting the air with brake and tire dust.

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I wonder what the numbers are when it comes to everyone keeping their homes heated/cooled all day compared to communal heating/cooling of a building.

District heating is popular in parts of the world. We could lower emissions caused by commuting and lower emissions due to shitty tiny furnaces.

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District heating (and cooling) would also alleviate the problem of people continuing to run ancient furnaces and air conditioners that are simply too old and worn down to be effective

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I don’t know about your home and office, but every office I worked in had atrocious heating and cooling. People wear hoodies inside all summer because the AC is set too low.

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Yup. You need a work hoodie for summer.
And there’s always that one girl that has a blanket.

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Or the lady who keeps bringing in a space heater and plugging it into their computer power strip despite being told repeatedly not to do that

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definitely a perk working from home, you decide temperature/sound/etc.

But I’m talking from an overall society energy use perspective.

I’m curious if the energy efficiency of having people in one building compares to the energy efficiency of them spread out.

It will greatly vary, as some are already in apartment buildings sharing that efficiency, some are in better eff rated homes, some are in worse eff rated homes.

Not sure this study can accurately claim 54% … even if they said ±10%, it’s still probably way out to lunch.

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I remember reading about a study pre-pandemic that found remote work was greatly better from an emissions standpoint than in-office work and it mostly came down to the massive amounts of resources spent commuting, and if I remember correctly it even found the emissions cost of commuting by public transit to be significant enough to see improvement by remote work

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Don’t forget about all the useless TVs and monitors running in offices all the time.

And heating/cooling/lighting all the empty rooms.

Plus staff for cleaning and security.

You’re not wrong that it’d be interesting to see some data, but my intuition is offices are extremely wasteful in a lot of ways. I could be wrong though!

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