And so it begins…

87 points

Again, you mean.

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44 points

Not really… This time America voted for the felon to become a dictator

And the felon will do whatever he can to make it happen.

Last time it was still a misguided presidency.

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34 points

I hear ya, but I mean he ‘joked’ about it before this election too.

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13 points

in the 10 minutes of the Rogan interview I could stomach he talked about how surreal it all was, how it was a joke, he didn’t want to be a politician, and he didn’t expect to win.

He was expecting it this time and he knows what he can get away with.

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5 points

It could be that simple. He didn’t realize the potential the first time around and so many things got in the way, including a disaster that tried to force a leadership role on him. This time enough was changed and built up to prevent the obstacles, and he not only can avoid justice for his past, but he can, in his own words, “do anything and they’ll let you.”

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8 points

I don’t know how anyone could be impressed by that interview. It was 3 hours of a narcissist saying how great he is.

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This time America voted for the felon to become a dictator

No, they just voted for the term that runs 2025-1-20 to 2029-1-20. The dictator thing might end up happening, but it’s not what was voted on.

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2 points

I load the gun, put it on my head, pull the trigger but i don’t want to die!

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19 points

Fuck that, he said multiple times that he’d be a dictator (on day one). He’s talked about terminating the Constitution. He tried to overthrow the 2020 election. He’s the only person who has ever argued that Presidents should have immunity, and then his hand-picked Supreme Court gave it to him. He said multiple times that this is the last time you’ll have to vote.

There is no gray area. He wants to be a dictator and will do EVERYTHING to make it happen. And his fucking supporters want it, too. Don’t give them any leeway and don’t give him any leeway. Call his and their bullshit out every fucking chance you get.

There is exactly one argument that fascists understand.

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HE LITERALLY TOLD US, USING THE VERY WORD, THAT HE WILL BE A DICTATOR HOLY SHIT I’M LOSING MY MIND

It is exactly what was voted on

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35 points

Not a joke.

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11 points

You would think they would figure it out right? It’s not a joke.

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5 points

You’d think, but then 75 or so million people either didn’t, or wanted this.

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21 points

He is 78, in awful health, and has no interest in a legacy or supporting a successor. He keeps everyone around him at odds and maintains enough infighting that no clear heir apparent could really show up.

So like, he really only will hold power long enough to make everything terrible. So we got that goin for us.

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Yep, when trump dies his “movement” explodes. They won’t consolidate around one, and trump would never have a clear successor because then he risks everyone siding with them.

MAGA ain’t a movement it’s a person.

When he’s gone the knives come out and the party will balkanize itself

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11 points

I wish I had your optimism

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7 points

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

The only right way to be an optimist about the big picture is to make sure you’re ready for when shit goes sideways on the day to day stuff.

For instance a big silver lining about four years of trump, this is one of the few scenarios people stay politically engaged after the election, thru the midterms, and onto 2028.

Republicans have the Oval, the House, and the Senate. There is not much they can do that people will blame on Dems.

Historically he’ll lose House or Senate in two years. Hopefully both, but ideally the Senate. There’s benefits to the other way around too tho.

Adjust your timescale you’re looking at this with. 4 years ain’t long, two years ain’t shit. Think of all the fucked up horrible shit we’ve done as a country. Realize that even if things get worse then they ever been in America (incredibly unlikely) we’ve bounced back before and we’ll bounce back eventually again.

This is going to suck.

But 20 years from now we might look back on this as the last speed bump before we finally fixed our political system. Empires burn down all the time, but ash makes fertile soil.

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Ideally, we would have avoided all this risk, but we didn’t, and for the time being, the best self-care for most of us is to keep in mind scenarios that may play out to reduce harm. Infighting has long been a normal to happen when the GOP asserts itself, so it’s not crazy to imagine it being ultimately the block for attempts to dismantle some of the political structure (the powerful players know how to play this game, and are hopefully worried enough about losing that power in any big change that they will work to protect the mechanisms currently in play).

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Well, we’re going to see plenty of new crimes in the next 4 years, and Trump is going to be motivated to stay out of jail if it’s even still remotely possible. I think he’s going to do everything he can to stay president until he’s actually dead or incapacitated.

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You know how long Caesar was dictator for life before he was assassinated? Less than a year.

But the damage was done, and Rome had a civil war over whether it would go back to being a Republic like it had been or if it would have an autocratic ruler. Obviously, the latter won out.

A lesson from history.

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We have so many lessons from history to pull from right now that you would need multiple professors to explain them all and yet they were all ignored.

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18 points

Let’s not lump Trump in with Julius Caesar. Julius Caesar was a war hero and a capable leader who’s final crimes were giving out citizenship and housing.

Trump’s final crimes will be giving all our state secrets to every other government in the world and obliterating our infrastructure.

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2 points

Yet nobody chose Caesar, yet millions chose for Trump

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6 points

You know how long Caesar was dictator for life before he was assassinated? Less than a year.

So you’re saying he was dictator for life? 😂

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4 points

I find it equally likely he tries to be in power until his last breath as it is for him to set the White House ablaze just before handing the keys to it’s next owner.

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4 points

It will definitely be interesting to see at which stage each “well, maybe it won’t be that bad” people realize that, yes. It will.

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2 points

dictators dont steal or take control. its handed to them.

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It’s not a joke, you fucking idiot.

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