Summary

Passengers on an American Airlines flight from Milwaukee to Dallas-Fort Worth restrained a Canadian man with duct tape after he allegedly attempted to open a cabin door mid-flight, claiming he was the “captain” and needed to exit.

The man became aggressive, injuring a flight attendant as he rushed toward the door.

Several passengers, including Doug McCright and Charlie Boris, subdued him, using duct tape to secure his hands and ankles.

Authorities detained the man upon landing, and the incident remains under investigation.

44 points

I understand the need to neutralize the threat but duct taping someone to Texas is just cruel

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7 points

Truly a punishment that doesn’t fit the crime.

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35 points

Assuming it wasn’t a Boeing, he wouldn’t have been able to get the door open, so at least they weren’t in any real danger.

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6 points

That depends on where in the flight he tried to open the door. The article says mid flight but that could mean anything.

Above 10,000 ft he wouldn’t be able to open the door because of the pressure difference but below that and he would have no problems since the cabin isn’t pressurized and the doors aren’t locked with any key or anything.

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4 points

Depends on the aircraft. In a 737 the doors drop pins once the takeoff roll begins. He wouldn’t be able to physically open the door at that point.

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2 points

A319

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3 points

If you are talking about this, the plane was landing. When it is at cruising altitude, cabin pressure makes that impossible.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65705276

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3 points

AA1915 was an A319.

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16 points

Tbf, being with a violently aggressive person in a tight enclosed space is still risky regardless

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3 points

I agree. I didn’t mean to suggest that. I was just trying to say he couldn’t have opened the door at altitude.

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5 points

That’s assuming Boeing parts work as intended which, putting it generously, seems to be less likely than it once was.

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1 point

Having worked in childcare in college, I once had a angry child bite me. Their little baby teeth broke skin.

Humans, even without weapons, can do a lot of damage.

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43 points

Well, not from the door opening, you are right (pressure difference and such). But he already injured a flight attendant, so I guess he wasn’t going to say “oh well it doesn’t open, I tried, I’ll sit down quietly now”.

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11 points

I wasn’t meaning to suggest that. Just that he wasn’t endangering everyone on the plane.

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14 points

Well, not everyone at the same time, just one at a time! Lol

I understand what you mean, I’m just kidding.

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2 points

“Whoopsie-doodles! Sorry y’all, I thought that was gonna open. Don’t mind me none!”

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3 points

Duct taped to the whole of the state?

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3 points

Live in Texas, can confirm. I’m currently taped to his ankle.

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91 points

The passenger was seen lying on his stomach with his hands behind his back bound as well as his ankles with duct tape, the report said.

So for future reference, especially for those of you who do such things recreationally, facedown restraint is very risky from a respiratory standpoint, especially with the limbs back in the hogtie position, that is how the cops kill people (I would say accidentally except they have enough education on the topic to preclude that). But ultimately I’m mostly just glad they kept him from opening the plane. That’s the obvious first priority there. Damn.

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Opening the door during flight is attempted murder of everyone on board, fuck him. I hope it was hard to breathe the whole time and they put him in a nice padded cell for a while.

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106 points

Considering he was claiming to be the captain and trying to get off the plane it seems highly likely he was having some kind of mental breakdown. He needs proper medical care and a psychological evaluation, not summary execution. Yes he was a danger to himself and others, but that doesn’t mean he’s guilty of attempted murder. A padded room might be appropriate depending on the psych evaluation, but wishing suffering on him without knowing the full situation is too much.

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Well, call me stupid, but execution in general is not good.

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38 points

They probably were going through some kind of mania or hallucination episode.

Don’t always assume the worst in people, “eye for an eye” has never worked.

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“Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind” is the more accurate version I think

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59 points

Found the cop.

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2 points

Username checks out

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17 points

In most airplanes, it’s impossible to open the doors while the plane is in the air due to air pressure keeping them in place.

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-14 points

That’s not how plane doors work.

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13 points

That doesn’t give anyone a pass to try and open it.

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10 points

I mean, it’s an attempt, but it’s in no way possible to actually do. That’s thousands of pounds of pressure on that door. I’d bet on the handle breaking off before the door opens mid-flight.

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But ultimately I’m mostly just glad they kept him from opening the plane. That’s the obvious first priority there. Damn.

It’s physically impossible to open a door on an airplane during most stages of the flight. The door first needs to move inward before opening, and the pressure differential is absurd. The handle would break long before you’d open the door. The only time it’s really possible is near the ground as you’re coming in to land or taking off (which did happen recently).

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That’s not true on every plane.

Typically for doors that don’t open inward first, they have interlocks.

For example, the over wing doors on a 737ng don’t open inward, they are actually spring loaded on a hinge and swing directly outward, there is a locking pawl that engages and disengages automatically under specific circumstances, requiring the squat switches on the landing gear to be engaged and the throttles to be in an idle position.

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Boeing aircraft have this safety feature where it fucking immediately falls off so you can always get out if you are the Captain and need to escape from the bad duct tape wielders.

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I’m going to trust that you’re correct.

But I’m still going to duct tape the psychopath for everyone’s safety, including the psychopath.

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3 points

You would ideally keep their hands restrained in front of them but if they’re too dextrous to allow that you want to at least keep them on their side. That said, not a level of understanding I typically expect from laypeople (vs, for instance, trained police officers).

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14 points

Something tells me he was not the captain. But I’ll wait for all the facts to come out before I rush to judgement.

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Good thinkin, Cap!

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