The woman, Talisa Coombs, told Delaney she’d just gotten into what she alleged was a physical altercation with her granddaughter’s mother, Maria Pike, and called 911. Independence police’s response to that 911 call ended with the shooting death of Pike, 34, and her two month old daughter, Destinii Hope — who were identified Tuesday by authorities from the Police Involved Investigative Team, or PIIT, a team of eastern Jackson County detectives called in to investigate police shootings and use-of-force incidents.

The officer who fired his weapon was “a long-tenured veteran of law enforcement,” Dustman said. That officer and another two who were at the scene are on administrative leave.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article295483354.html

189 points

“On administrative leave”, Jesus fucking christ, fire and prosecute those fuck heads. This is well beyond gross negligence.

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127 points

Sentencing guidelines should automatically double sentences for law enforcement and government officials, regardless of the crime.

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“Wrongful Death Offender List” should be a thing.

And it should be run by citizens.

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3 points

I got some hosting space on the NAS. Let’s crowdsource this shit.

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1 point

And should end with righteous death, perpetrated on the people on the list.

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51 points

The unfortunate reality is the inverse…

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-1 points

Medvedev, is that you?

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14 points

No, no. We’ll just give him a paid vacation.

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13 points

For real, let them defend themselves in a court of law.

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9 points

Ok, I think this needs to be explained because people don’t understand the whole “on administrative leave” thing. It’s not a slap on the wrist, it’s the first step they have to take to fire him.

Cops have unions. One of the things those unions have put in place is that most cops can not immediately just be fired except in extremely narrow and specific circumstances. Beyond those circumstances, there has to be an investigation. During the investigation, the cop is placed on administrative leave. Even if it’s super cut and dry, statements still need to be taken, a report still has to be written, and it’s gotta go through the whole process.

Now, do these investigations often get intentionally delayed? Yes. Do they often come out weeks or months later saying “cop did nothing wrong, everyone move along.” Also yes. But the point is administrative leave is not the punishment and does not mean that consequences aren’t going to be coming. Saying “Why put them on administrative leave? Just fire them!” is kind of like saying “Why fill out the forms HR needs to fire them? Just fire them!” It’s a process, and administrative leave is the first step.

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7 points

Im fairly certain shooting a 2 month old in the head qualifies for immediate prosecution. What’s the report going to say, he felt threatened by the 2 month old rattling their toys at him?

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1 point

It’s likely worse. He was trying to shoot the mother and missed.

He’s a shit shot.

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149 points

Greenfield believes police could have used different methods to de-escalate the situation.

No effing shit Sherlock

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34 points

What they mean is, there are other ways of killing people than just shooting them.

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22 points

they should have tazed the baby instead is what they mean

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14 points

That’s really dangerous

Best bet is to start with the flash bang in the crib

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26 points

That means next time don’t leave witnesses.

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126 points

Jesus christ. ACAB

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63 points

As a Canadian, I wish you were right but you just aren’t.

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63 points

Canadian cops drive indigonous people out into the woods and leave them there to freeze to death

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Canadian cops are far from perfect, but they are drastically better than the US cops.

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I’m confident that Russia has even worse police. The morality police in some countries have killed women for not wearing headscarves.

Yes, US police culture is fucking awful and being armed makes it worse. They are not even close to unique though.

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Cops aren’t bastards because they randomly kill small children and pets. Cops are bastards because they enforce the social hierarchies and protect the rich from the masses.

They just also kill small children and pets sometimes. As a treat. And, as with most other forms of treats, Americans indulge more than those in many other places in the world.

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No, ACAB includes all cops, including ones from other countries.

The US might have particularly bad cops, but cops from other countries are still pretty bad.

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“All” is quite definitive. I prefer a shorter slogan:

PEB

Policing Enables Bastards

Seems much harder to get hung up in semantic arguments and it gives activists permission to join their ranks and attempt to disrupt a broken system from the inside. Also shows solidarity with cops who are on leave right now for reporting misconduct or disobeying unethical orders, instead of labeling them as bastards in the interim from now until they’re fired.

I hope there aren’t cops who think “well, I’m a bastard no matter what, so why bother?” but if there are, I like the narrative shift of “don’t let yourself fall into the bastard trap; report corruption, speak out, be better”.

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oh sweetie, don’t mess with slogans you don’t understand

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The officer who fired his weapon was “a long-tenured veteran of law enforcement,” Dustman said.

So who else has he murdered in cold blood?

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66 points

If you explode a baby’s head with a gun, let’s just skip the trial and send 'em straight to prison for the rest of their life because there’s nothing left for you in this world. Your humanity card has been withdrawn.

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if I had killed a little kid, accidentally or otherwise, I wouldn’t have thought twice. I’d killed myself on the fucking spot. On the fucking spot. I would’ve stuck the gun in me mouth. On the fucking spot!

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9 points

And the psyche of the cops is so bent that instead they go like “oh… whoops. my bad, guys, my bad.”

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8 points

Not at all, they go “who can I blame for this?”, and then they set out to destroy that one’s life or legacy.

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5 points

They don’t admit guilt. It is against Union rules. So forget about the “my bad”.

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4 points

People like this deserve to be put in front of a firing squad with a target on their head to see if it explodes too, but I doubt it will because they probably have a thick skull.

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Really? Prison wasn’t what I was thinking. Why waste tax payer dollars?

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it’s not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they’re investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers’ names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with ‘law enforcement experience’ and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It’s called “Wandering Cops.”

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: “testilying.” Yet it’s almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don’t, they aren’t cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of “qualified immunity” renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past ‘qualified immunity’ is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That’s the solution.

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