23 points

Computer science has absolutely nothing to do with support, they are totally different fields with totally different skill sets.

Most programmers I’ve known would be garbage at support and most support staff might be able to do some scripting but sure as hell aren’t coders.

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4 points

Okay but someone that works in IT will have the same answer.

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1 point

Nobody should work for free unless we get to live in a post scarcity society

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4 points

Computer science has absolutely nothing to do with support, they are totally different fields with totally different skill sets.

That also holds for computer science and programming :)

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66 points

Pro tip: whenever a relative asks you to fix their computer, wipe everything and set up Linux for them. That’ll teach em.

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Or even better, install Emacs and run away laughing wildly! Bwahahahaha!

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16 points

Did that for my sister but nowadays I just use the excuse: “Sorry I can’t help you, I don’t use Windows anymore”.

The real problem is when a relative know that I’m computer guy and ask me to fix the TV/air conditioner or like my father once did: setup an antenna

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7 points

Did that, kind of. The system’s been running flawlessly for like a decade now. I’m not sure if they even understand the difference.

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31 points

“You use Arch, now, btw”

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15 points

“Make sure to write that down, because you’re legally required to bring it up at every possible opportunity.”

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24 points

I just tell them that I only deal with Linux and that is usually enough to dissuade.

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8 points

Legit haven’t touched windows in 5 years, I don’t know my way around it

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5 points

I haven’t used Windows personally in about 15 years and professionally in about 10. I’m pretty useless on anything newer than XP. I even got my wife to switch over to a Mac Mini because at least that has a Unix-like OS and she can still do her audio work on it (in fact, better than a Windows system because their patch QA is light-years ahead of the MS “fuck it, it’ll break some systems but we’ll get that next patch Tuesday” approach).

That’s not to say that I like Apple. I just dislike their OS less than Windows.

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10 points

,oh how glad, my ubuntu is broken since update"

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2 points

Looks like we’re setting up an improvised KVM device! :D

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5 points

Then it’s fun lol

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9 points

Honestly no problem, if they’re tech literate enough to have gotten that far it’ll probably be okay

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Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes

Edsger W. Dijkstra

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40 points

And when your radio is broken, you don’t ask a composer

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11 points

What they say: “You know about computers, right?”
What they mean: “Can you fix this bug in Microsoft’s software?”

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Alright I’m probably the outlier here but… I like helping people with their IT needs, and I’ve always found the problem solving and praise kinda nice. Maybe it’s just a me thing tho

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I used to work in IT, and both then when I was on my personal time, and now, I do not love helping people, but all it takes is someone else doing it poorly would annoy me enough I would end up helping someone

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imo - you are not the outlier, you just haven’t yet progressed to the mostly inevitable stage where people take advantage of your help, or their spyware ridden dumpster fire of a laptop breaks and they blame you because you “touched it last” - never mind that was 6 months ago and the only thing you did was change the screensaver timeout.

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I actually like helping people a lot, too.

I don’t think IT folks are naturally misanthropic or antisocial, but I personally got beat down so much by wanting to help and realizing they didn’t care to listen, or weren’t willing to learn anything. At all. Even though they came to me with the problem, it seemed they mostly just wanted me to fix it for them with zero understanding required, or to “be emotional at someone” or were lonely.

I also got so tired of being friendly and enthusiastically educational with advising my relatives or friends, only to then watch them completely disregard 100% of my advice they came to me for.

In the former job I’m still putting myself back together from, most of the public peoples who visited me would have been better served by visiting a psychologist / therapist first, but I was cheaper (free). :(

Often when it’s something I do specialize in and I get all excited, that’s when they choose to gloss over and I can tell they just want me to stop talking.

I hate having biases against people, but there very much are definitely “normies” who are threatened by the prospect of having to activate their neurons for the first time since they stumbled out of their highest level of education, and only learned to think when it was forced upon them.

Makes a guy feel pretty crappy. So I’m not as forthcoming with my skillset as I used to be in casual company. Lol

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I think what you are describing is teaching not helping. Helping someone is just doing the thing they need help with and thats it. Its not a prerequisite that someone learn something if your goal is just to help them but it is if your goal is to teach them something.

It is nice when people share your interests and want to learn but everyone’s got their own stuff going on and sometimes can’t make room for something new like that.

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Except in a minority of scenerios, helping someone do something ≠ doing that thing yourself. It could mean less, or, at times, even more than that.

Take the familiar example of helping a blind man cross street. While you do cross the street with him, the fella ALSO WALKS with you and crosses the street on his legs, not yours.

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I’m with you but there’s definitely a line that gets crossed fairly often when you help people out with these things.

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6 points

I like helping people, but not with what I do for my day job. Ask me to shovel your driveway or help you move or proofread your emails or anything but more of what I’ve already spent all day doing.

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