So which on of these are better for my pixel 7a if we consider these:

i dont care about leaving the bootloader unlocked

i want customization to my os as long as this is possible

i hate google so i dont want any google things or google spyware (i dont use any google service)

i need push notifications for some apps (maybe microg or sandboxed google play services? idk)

i don’t use esim or google pay so idc about these

i need A LOT of privacy and security to my data to the point that i want to block trackers for any app i use

i wanna use google camera as it is in stock rom but i dont want google spy shit. if i use a firewall would that be ok?

Note: i can sacrifice locking the bootloader and customization for my privacy/security/not having spyware on my phone

Thanks in advance!

Edit: i just saw that there is iodé (which sees app trackers and i found it interesting) plus CopperheadOS

Edit 2: THANK YOU ALL A LOT, your answers are the best, imma go with grapheneos and donate them also cause their job is the best

also i found this matrix for oses that helped me: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm !!!

Edit 3: Deleted CopperheadOS from the title - no need to compare cause it’s garbage (see comments)

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There is no reason for considering Calyx at all. Graphene and Divest are better in terms of security and privacy.

If one want’s easy and convenient privacy, /e/ might be a valide option. No need for Calyx, Lineage or Iode

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DivestOS has my attention as a graphene user. Not to switch, unless I ever get fed up with the pixel.

Divested is behind the Mull and Mulch browsers, for what it’s worth. I never looked deeper than using Mull, but apparently Divested is one person.

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DivestOS sounds interesting but I am wary of any “mission-critical” software project (such as the firmware for my primary phone) that relies on a single person, for multiple reasons. Burnout and potential for social engineering by malicious actors being two of them.

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Why don’t you trust the stability of the OS if it works with LG, Samsung, Nokia, and a Chinese company phone?

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GP:s comment made me curious as well. Usually, if multiple hardware vendors are supported there are separate branches with different maintainers. It doesn’t necessarily mean that the main codebase is bloated as a result.

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Lineage will likely wirk with random phones, that dosn’t mean it’s quality. I say, if a phone OS works on LG, Samaung, Nokia, and a Chinese company phone, I don’t trust the stability of the OS.

that’s just plain bullshit with at most zero backing knowledge. supporting various brands really won’t make the software that complicated. the software you install won’t need to include compatibility patches of all the supported brands and models, it’s routine that system images are customized for the phone, with patches specifically for that phone.

I mean yeah LOS is not the best in quality, but the remaining part does not make sense

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What’s wrong with GrapheneOS?

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Nothing, the grand parents said “it’s fine”

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Ubuntu – few applications, unstable: over time, some problems with the volume were, cured only reboot; there is no normal application Telegram (web client that the battery eats).

CalyxOS is subjectively more convenient, F-Droid and RuStore download by machine, F-Droid installs an update machine, RuStore downloads and asks for /e/OS RuStore to download forcibly. Also on both MicroG systems, but on /e/OS, SBPay bent and didn’t work, on CalyxOS - no problem. Similar to applications, for example, for renting scooters: on /e/OS some problems, on CalyxOS - no problems. There are fewer problems with CalyxOS.

With Sber, Rosselkhozbank and Unicredit, there are no problems there or there. Russian mail application does not work on any platform.

The only plus/e/OS is what is in GooglePlay, but not in RuStore, it is easier to put: AuroraStore on CalyxOS makes you go out and log in all the time to update the installed applications; on /e/OS, what is installed in your home store, including with Google PlayStore applications is updated without problems by automaton.

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Unfortunately pixel phones are too expensive for a phone. I went with a Galaxy A34 which is good, but no graphene os for me

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not just too expensive, but designed to be hard to repair too. just look up the ifixit disassembly guide, it’s horrible

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Pixel 8a was <400€ on black friday. I know not everyone can afford this, but even 5 years ago that wouldn’t have been that much for a phone

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Bought Pixel 7 a new for 335 EUR. Refurbished is another option.

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Interesting, I paid the same for my phone. But I will keep it five years so it will be a less cheap pixel then

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GrapheneOS supports the 7 a until May 2028 with extended support 5 years https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime

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Paid $150 for a Pixel 5. Pixel 7 is $200.

I don’t waste money on new phones, or new cars.

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For those that are looking to install GrapheneOS and want to ensure that their banking apps work as intended, here is a curated list of supported apps per country:

https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/

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do you mean that these apps work on graphene os with or without the sandboxed google play?

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Note that anyone can contribute to the list, just open an issue un the repo.

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absolute hero thanks

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GrapheneOS

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