So which on of these are better for my pixel 7a if we consider these:

i dont care about leaving the bootloader unlocked

i want customization to my os as long as this is possible

i hate google so i dont want any google things or google spyware (i dont use any google service)

i need push notifications for some apps (maybe microg or sandboxed google play services? idk)

i don’t use esim or google pay so idc about these

i need A LOT of privacy and security to my data to the point that i want to block trackers for any app i use

i wanna use google camera as it is in stock rom but i dont want google spy shit. if i use a firewall would that be ok?

Note: i can sacrifice locking the bootloader and customization for my privacy/security/not having spyware on my phone

Thanks in advance!

Edit: i just saw that there is iodé (which sees app trackers and i found it interesting) plus CopperheadOS

Edit 2: THANK YOU ALL A LOT, your answers are the best, imma go with grapheneos and donate them also cause their job is the best

also i found this matrix for oses that helped me: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm !!!

Edit 3: Deleted CopperheadOS from the title - no need to compare cause it’s garbage (see comments)

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CopperheadOS is anti-libre software, extremely dangerous. We do not control it. It fails to include a libre software licence text file, like GPL. 🚩

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I thought CopperheadOS was just the former name for GrapheneOS? At least that’s how I understood the statement on their page.

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GrapheneOS

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For those that are looking to install GrapheneOS and want to ensure that their banking apps work as intended, here is a curated list of supported apps per country:

https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/

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Note that anyone can contribute to the list, just open an issue un the repo.

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do you mean that these apps work on graphene os with or without the sandboxed google play?

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absolute hero thanks

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I’ve personally tried Lineage, CalyxOS and Graphene. I’m currently on Graphene because it has the most app compatability and at least has higher security claims than Calyx which is more FOSS/privacy focused with microg vs graphenes sandboxed Google play.

What really got me to switch was once banking apps started failing to work due to microg compatibility. That may or may not have been resolved by now.

If Privacy and avoiding sending any data to Google is your priority I would do Calyx since you can get push notifications through microg without signing into Google and you can get apps anonymously through the aurora store.

However if you want a better user experience I would suggest GrapheneOS with Sanboxed Google Play. It’s very solid and I haven’t had any issues getting any apps to work thus far.

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I use 4 different European banking apps without issues on CalyxOS.

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do you have an alternative to Google wallet/other contactless apps not working on grapheneos for some dumb safetynet reason?

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I haven’t tried it myself, but you could get a Garmin watch and add your cards there. I believe you don’t need the phone connected afterwards to make payments.

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I do not at least here in the US where I’m located only Google pay and Apple pay are supported. I have heard some Europeans mention their banking apps natively support their own contactless payment when I’m pretty jealous of

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I use Graphene. I like the Auditor app and the ability to verify that the ROM is unaltered because you can never trust an orphan kernel like all mobile devices. If I ever give up possession of my device, I can verify if it was altered. I also have a way to wipe the device on locked login with no indication that the ROM is being wiped as provided by Graphene.

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