So which on of these are better for my pixel 7a if we consider these:

i dont care about leaving the bootloader unlocked

i want customization to my os as long as this is possible

i hate google so i dont want any google things or google spyware (i dont use any google service)

i need push notifications for some apps (maybe microg or sandboxed google play services? idk)

i don’t use esim or google pay so idc about these

i need A LOT of privacy and security to my data to the point that i want to block trackers for any app i use

i wanna use google camera as it is in stock rom but i dont want google spy shit. if i use a firewall would that be ok?

Note: i can sacrifice locking the bootloader and customization for my privacy/security/not having spyware on my phone

Thanks in advance!

Edit: i just saw that there is iodé (which sees app trackers and i found it interesting) plus CopperheadOS

Edit 2: THANK YOU ALL A LOT, your answers are the best, imma go with grapheneos and donate them also cause their job is the best

also i found this matrix for oses that helped me: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm !!!

Edit 3: Deleted CopperheadOS from the title - no need to compare cause it’s garbage (see comments)

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GrapheneOS

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I’ve personally tried Lineage, CalyxOS and Graphene. I’m currently on Graphene because it has the most app compatability and at least has higher security claims than Calyx which is more FOSS/privacy focused with microg vs graphenes sandboxed Google play.

What really got me to switch was once banking apps started failing to work due to microg compatibility. That may or may not have been resolved by now.

If Privacy and avoiding sending any data to Google is your priority I would do Calyx since you can get push notifications through microg without signing into Google and you can get apps anonymously through the aurora store.

However if you want a better user experience I would suggest GrapheneOS with Sanboxed Google Play. It’s very solid and I haven’t had any issues getting any apps to work thus far.

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do you have an alternative to Google wallet/other contactless apps not working on grapheneos for some dumb safetynet reason?

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I haven’t tried it myself, but you could get a Garmin watch and add your cards there. I believe you don’t need the phone connected afterwards to make payments.

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I do not at least here in the US where I’m located only Google pay and Apple pay are supported. I have heard some Europeans mention their banking apps natively support their own contactless payment when I’m pretty jealous of

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I use 4 different European banking apps without issues on CalyxOS.

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What’s wrong with GrapheneOS?

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Nothing, the grand parents said “it’s fine”

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DivestOS has my attention as a graphene user. Not to switch, unless I ever get fed up with the pixel.

Divested is behind the Mull and Mulch browsers, for what it’s worth. I never looked deeper than using Mull, but apparently Divested is one person.

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DivestOS sounds interesting but I am wary of any “mission-critical” software project (such as the firmware for my primary phone) that relies on a single person, for multiple reasons. Burnout and potential for social engineering by malicious actors being two of them.

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There is no reason for considering Calyx at all. Graphene and Divest are better in terms of security and privacy.

If one want’s easy and convenient privacy, /e/ might be a valide option. No need for Calyx, Lineage or Iode

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Why don’t you trust the stability of the OS if it works with LG, Samsung, Nokia, and a Chinese company phone?

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GP:s comment made me curious as well. Usually, if multiple hardware vendors are supported there are separate branches with different maintainers. It doesn’t necessarily mean that the main codebase is bloated as a result.

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Lineage will likely wirk with random phones, that dosn’t mean it’s quality. I say, if a phone OS works on LG, Samaung, Nokia, and a Chinese company phone, I don’t trust the stability of the OS.

that’s just plain bullshit with at most zero backing knowledge. supporting various brands really won’t make the software that complicated. the software you install won’t need to include compatibility patches of all the supported brands and models, it’s routine that system images are customized for the phone, with patches specifically for that phone.

I mean yeah LOS is not the best in quality, but the remaining part does not make sense

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CopperheadOS is anti-libre software, extremely dangerous. We do not control it. It fails to include a libre software licence text file, like GPL. 🚩

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I thought CopperheadOS was just the former name for GrapheneOS? At least that’s how I understood the statement on their page.

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I use Graphene. I like the Auditor app and the ability to verify that the ROM is unaltered because you can never trust an orphan kernel like all mobile devices. If I ever give up possession of my device, I can verify if it was altered. I also have a way to wipe the device on locked login with no indication that the ROM is being wiped as provided by Graphene.

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