64 points

If you’re still using Chrome… What was it like hitting retirement age before 2008?

Jokes aside, Chrome really is the bottom of my list in the last several years. I’ve gotten the best functionality out of Firefox in the last while. Anyone else different?

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I’ve been using Firefox since forever. It had its downs, but generally I’m happy with it. And with Multi account containers they’ve made sure I stay for life, it saves so much time.

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4 points

How do multi-account containers differ from Chrome profiles?

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17 points

Being able to have different containers in the same window?

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3 points

When did they implement the containers?

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3 points

I do a lot of casting from my desktop to the Chromecast connected to my TV. I have not been able to successfully cast from Firefox. I would love to find a solution though.

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Interesting, any experiences with this? How well does it work?

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1 point

I preferred Brave but I’m side-eyeing it the more news that comes out about Chromium.

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If FF isn’t for you then maybe give Brave a try. It’s basically a de-googled Chrome.

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4 points

Isn’t Chromium degoogled Chrome?

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3 points

Vivaldi uses the same engine as Chromium, and the company has been founded by ex Opera developers.

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I’ve been trying to switch to Firefox but the tab groups suck and I rely on that pretty heavily so I’m stuck in chromium. Every tab group thing I’ve tried on Firefox is just worse.

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If only Firefox rendered my CSS exactly the same like in Chrome. I don’t know if they fixed it but last time developing a web site in FF was real annoying because when I made it look just right in FF some minor things were slightly off in Chrome so I had to keep going back and forth.

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12 points

I don’t work in hardly anything touching a front end, but shouldn’t you support all major browsers for your rendering? So, checking it in several browsers all the time.

I totally get the difference between should and do, so honestly asking. There is shit I should do, and there is shit that there is time to do. Checking all browsers on all updates may not be it.

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I’m stuck with chrome for work because everyone wants their integrated Google Workplace services to operate seamlessly (and because that’s what’s approved in our security P&P).

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If it doesn’t work with other WebKit or chrome-based browsers, then we’re back to “extend and extinguish” and your company should run as far away from that locked-in garbage as fast as possible.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

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4 points

I never stopped using Firefox

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I use Firefox at home, but at work I use Edge as we use Microsoft for a lot of services. It’s actually surprisingly not bad ha ha.

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12 points

This is fucking sick. What is going on with the tech giants this year?! Twitter, reddit, YouTube…

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15 points

They’re not getting the sweet funding they used to so now they actually have to be profitable.

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12 points

Yep. They are ordinary businesses now, and must seek every increasing profits via squeezing.

The innovation era of big tech is over. The internet is just another utility over which ads must be pumped.

People forget that cable was ad-free went it first started rolling out.

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4 points

Yeah, and the advertising market is only so big. Showing a user hundreds of ads still only makes them buy maybe one product they don’t actually need. The profits from that one product are the maximum amount of money to pay for all those ads.

So, if Google shoves more ads down our throats, that means other companies get less money for the ads they show and so have to increase the number of shown ads, too. Even though this still likely won’t make users actually buy more products. It’s an arms race and the loser is the user just getting thousands of useless ads.

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18 points

Not keen on following these awful proposals. It feels like there’s a persistent trend of making the internet shiter than it was beforehand. I get alphabet has a vetted interest in ads and user data, but if they’re going to push for this tracking approach I guess it’ll be back to fix Firefox again

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Silicon Valley Hubris. These companies got too big and act as if we don’t have choices. Web is still built on open standards no matter what. These are all attempts to graft on closed patterns on open infrastructure.

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3 points

It worked with the media DRM that currently exists in browsers.

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18 points

Consider switching now. Your continued usage is contributing to the user numbers they see reported that gives them the confidence to pull this shit in the first place.

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if they’re going to push for this tracking approach I guess it’ll be back to fix Firefox again

If they will? They will. They are.

Time to follow through on your words. I expect a reply written using Firefox.

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69 points

The way they phrase the reasoning in their proposal is just disgusting! Like “Users want advertisers to be happy, and advertisers need …”, as if it’s all about what users want.

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44 points

I actually strongly want advertisers to be angry. In fact the more upset advertisers are the happier I am.

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37 points

This is the problem:

Exactly how the rest of the world feels about this is not necessarily relevant, though. Google owns the world’s most popular web browser, the world’s largest advertising network, the world’s biggest search engine, the world’s most popular operating system, and some of the world’s most popular websites. So really, Google can do whatever it wants. Other projects like Chrome’s “Privacy Sandbox” ad platform and the adblock-limiting manifest V3 have been universally panned, but Google has kept right on trucking with the projects. There have been some small project tweaks and delays, but Google keeps marching forward.

If the theory that consumers are rational actors were true, then the world would simply switch to a new “most popular web browser” etc anf Google’s hegemony would end.

Unfortunately that’s not how the world really works and plenty of people will sit there obediently being milked of their data and influenced in their behaviour.

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Maybe they shouldn’t own all that stuff. It’s Microsoft Explorer all over again.

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