69 points

The way they phrase the reasoning in their proposal is just disgusting! Like “Users want advertisers to be happy, and advertisers need …”, as if it’s all about what users want.

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I actually strongly want advertisers to be angry. In fact the more upset advertisers are the happier I am.

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If you’re still using Chrome… What was it like hitting retirement age before 2008?

Jokes aside, Chrome really is the bottom of my list in the last several years. I’ve gotten the best functionality out of Firefox in the last while. Anyone else different?

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I’ve been using Firefox since forever. It had its downs, but generally I’m happy with it. And with Multi account containers they’ve made sure I stay for life, it saves so much time.

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4 points

How do multi-account containers differ from Chrome profiles?

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17 points

Being able to have different containers in the same window?

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3 points

When did they implement the containers?

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4 points

I never stopped using Firefox

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I’m stuck with chrome for work because everyone wants their integrated Google Workplace services to operate seamlessly (and because that’s what’s approved in our security P&P).

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If it doesn’t work with other WebKit or chrome-based browsers, then we’re back to “extend and extinguish” and your company should run as far away from that locked-in garbage as fast as possible.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

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I do a lot of casting from my desktop to the Chromecast connected to my TV. I have not been able to successfully cast from Firefox. I would love to find a solution though.

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Interesting, any experiences with this? How well does it work?

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I preferred Brave but I’m side-eyeing it the more news that comes out about Chromium.

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I’ve been trying to switch to Firefox but the tab groups suck and I rely on that pretty heavily so I’m stuck in chromium. Every tab group thing I’ve tried on Firefox is just worse.

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I use Firefox at home, but at work I use Edge as we use Microsoft for a lot of services. It’s actually surprisingly not bad ha ha.

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If only Firefox rendered my CSS exactly the same like in Chrome. I don’t know if they fixed it but last time developing a web site in FF was real annoying because when I made it look just right in FF some minor things were slightly off in Chrome so I had to keep going back and forth.

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I don’t work in hardly anything touching a front end, but shouldn’t you support all major browsers for your rendering? So, checking it in several browsers all the time.

I totally get the difference between should and do, so honestly asking. There is shit I should do, and there is shit that there is time to do. Checking all browsers on all updates may not be it.

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Vivaldi uses the same engine as Chromium, and the company has been founded by ex Opera developers.

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If FF isn’t for you then maybe give Brave a try. It’s basically a de-googled Chrome.

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Isn’t Chromium degoogled Chrome?

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This proposal absolutely infuriates me. This is making it so that you won’t be able to browse the web unless you are using “approved” hardware on an “approved” OS with an “approved” browser. You will have no freedom to control your computing. Even if your browser is open source it will barely matter because you won’t be able to patch it, you will need to run the approved binaries.

Fuck off and let me use the software I want.

This is SafetyNet from Android. You won’t be able to access your bank, your movies, your anything unless you are using hardware and software that is controlled by billion dollar corporations.

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This is the problem:

Exactly how the rest of the world feels about this is not necessarily relevant, though. Google owns the world’s most popular web browser, the world’s largest advertising network, the world’s biggest search engine, the world’s most popular operating system, and some of the world’s most popular websites. So really, Google can do whatever it wants. Other projects like Chrome’s “Privacy Sandbox” ad platform and the adblock-limiting manifest V3 have been universally panned, but Google has kept right on trucking with the projects. There have been some small project tweaks and delays, but Google keeps marching forward.

If the theory that consumers are rational actors were true, then the world would simply switch to a new “most popular web browser” etc anf Google’s hegemony would end.

Unfortunately that’s not how the world really works and plenty of people will sit there obediently being milked of their data and influenced in their behaviour.

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Maybe they shouldn’t own all that stuff. It’s Microsoft Explorer all over again.

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I’ve had in my mind a political cartoon; two panels:

The first panel is The Free Market Ideal. Dozens of carts and woodend stands selling fresh fruit, food, hand made goods, etc. There’s lots of energetic people moving about and talking and haggling with merchants over prices and comparing prices and looking at all their choices.

The second panel is The Free Market Reality. A bunch of tired people standing in line for one of two computer terminals.

The truths portrayed is that there is no bargaining with the monopolies that dominate our markets, their processes are automated. This is not a market of equals, the people are tired and manipulated. As for choice, sometimes you can choose between 2 or 3 companies, sometimes there’s only 1 option.

The things that happen in a healthy free market are not happening.

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There is no healthy free market. That was always a lie spun by those who want to control the market and give the illusion of choice until they’re so ingrained that the illusion is no longer necessary.

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