A Direct is announced for April 2nd to cover the games.

156 points

So much for Nintendo’s previous naming conventions. I was really hoping for the New Super Nintendo Switch U.

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They wanna make it very clear that this is their best-selling console ever but better, I would‘ve been surprised if they didn‘t just slap a 2 on it. There‘s so much riding on this for them.

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50 points

I don’t think Nintendo have ever done a Console 2 before though. I was hoping for Super Switch but as ever Nintendo absolutely refuse to be predictable!

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28 points

I’m sure it was considered, but a console nicknamed SS was probably ruled out.

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7 points

Yeah, I get that, I was just trying to say that the above is probably their reasoning in my mind. They‘re scared shitless to fuck the transition up, calling it „The Stuff You Guys Loved 2.0“ is the lowest risk move.

I like your Super Switch though lol

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4 points

nintendo switch advanced sp

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2 points

Nintendo Vers

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13 points

Plus it’s an actual straight upgrade, what with backwards compatibility and all.

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2 points

Partial backwards compatibility, based on their asterisk, at least.

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3 points

I think that’s still the DS. The Switch got close, but didn’t beat it, and now that attention is on the Switch2, it probably won’t.

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1 point

Well they did just slap a 3 onto the DS

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4 points

And then called the second gen 3DS the “New 3DS”.

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Super Nintendo Switch 128 Dodecahedron V.

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6 points

& Knuckles

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3 points

Starring Dante from the Devil May Cry series

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9 points

They got scared after what happened with the Wii U.

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4 points

The new 3ds was very confusing too

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3 points

Yeah, everyone always brings up the Wii U but the whole “New” 3DS situation was even less clear if you ask me

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6 points

…Cube 128

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5 points

I was hoping for the Swiitch

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1 point

I’ll be waiting for the swivtch

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It occurred to me that this is the first time Nintendo has ever not used some new weird naming convention for a successor console. Just 2.

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4 points

I’d buy a Nintendo Switchety-Four in a heartbeat

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2 points

New Super Mario Bros U2 Deluxe & Knuckles

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76 points

Hoping they add Hall effect sensors and eliminate drift once and for all

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25 points

It looks like the controllers attach to the screen magnetically, which may interfere with the sensors of Hall Effect sticks

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Hall effect sensor expert here! No, the magnets in the joycons that are used to attach to the display/body of the Switch 2 would not interfere with hall effect analog sticks.

Two reasons:

  • The magnets are too far away (sensors are usually only sensitive to magnets within 10-12mm directly above/below)
  • The mounting/attachment magnets would be perpendicular to the magnets in the analog sticks (if you imagine the flux lines they wouldn’t cross the sensory boundary).

Regardless, it would be trivial to place a tiny little piece of ferromagnetic blocking tape wherever necessary to prevent interference.

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3 points

Would the NFC system in the stick interfere with hall effect sensors?

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27 points

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14 points

I’m not a scientist but I’m pretty sure theyd be able to calibrate the sensors to ignore the magnetic force of the attachment points

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Maybe, I got the Pimax Portal a while back and due to their magnetic attachments Hall Effect sticks wouldn’t work. I’m sure Nintendo would have a better time solving this issue than Pimax would though

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8 points

That Doesnt affect Hall & Oates sensors, though.

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5 points

Rumors/Leaks had them and they were right about what we see in the trailer so hopefully. I’m hoping yes, nintendo must be tired of repairing joycons ^^

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4 points

The joy cons were awful for that.

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5 points

I updated my Joycons to the hall effect sticks and they’re awesome. No drift after several months.

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Can’t help but be a little disappointed. The last few consoles have all been pretty drastically different, but this is just the Switch released again. Only with different connections so you need all new accessories.

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54 points

Nintendo collapsed its console and handheld product lines for the Switch. We’re also seeing large parts of the gaming industry adopt the Switch form factor for their products. I don’t think there is anything that Nintendo could innovate on that would sell.

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21 points

Yeah with Nintendo watching two Xboxes languish and consumer discontent with the recent playstations as well, there’s not a real impetus for something radical in design. Some innovation would be exciting but the Switch and PC Handhelds prove people want big grippy mobile devices, even if they’re only moving between rooms.

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3 points

I mean that’s not what I want, but money talks and I fit into exactly what you said. I did not buy an Xbox, I did but a PS5, but hardly bought (I don’t think I’ve even beaten) any games. The next switch is probably the next console I’m excited about. But it’s not because of the portability, it’s because they still make couch co-op games.

In short I want to say I don’t care for handhelds but I’ll probably try harder to get a switch close to release than I will a PS6 even though I don’t know how much of a point in either right now. I just have console fatigue, but keep paying into the problem.

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39 points

At the same time, the Switch is such a solid console that a hardware upgrade with full backwards compatibility* is really the best case scenario. People have wanted a bigger screen, better chip, and better joysticks since launch, and now we’ll have them!

*the video says it’s not 100% compatible, but I’m assuming that’s for stuff like Labo and Ring Fit that need those exact joycon sizes/shapes.

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4 points

I’m hoping that with the Ring Fit, to get around that restriction we can just pair the Switch 1 joycons to the Switch 2 console and use them detached.

In theory that might still work.

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Yeah, I guess I was just hoping for more of a new generation type reveal, rather than a sequel to the Switch. Better hardware is definitely a plus though, would be nice to replay TotK or Pokemon SV with better graphics & performance. I still wonder if those two games were meant to release alongside a Switch 2 prior to the chip shortage.

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2 points

They’ll probably at least try to somehow make the mig switch non-functional on the switch 2, which could cause some other games to not work.

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17 points

Nintendo consoles tended to be radical, Nintendo handhelds were more iterative.

The Game Boy and DS lines all built gradually on each other, seems the Switch line is following suit. I assume Nintendo see the Switch as a handheld that can be docked, rather than a console that’s also portable, so I guess it makes sense that it’s following a similar trajectory of previous handheld lines.

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10 points

I mean the DS was pretty radical at the time.

I feel like Nintendo does a huge innovation, then an iteration or two(or a bunch of little changes), then back to a big change. Wii/WiiU, GB/GBA, DS/3DS, switch/2

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6 points

I get why - the Switch was the successor of both their console and handhelds, and it did very well. Why change it?

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6 points

You’d need all new accessories anyway with a complete redesign.

I’ve bought every Nintendo console up until the Wii U. Since they abandoned that early, I decided to skip the Switch. I’ll likely pick this up. If this doesn’t do well and gets abandoned early again, I’ll at least get to play all the games I’ve missed over the years due to backwards compatibility.

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5 points

The Switch has so many good games! Sure, most are available on other platforms as well, but overall it’s such a great system.

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5 points

I am hoping that the Joycon mouse mode turns out real and used in some interesting ways.

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I totally missed that the first time I watched it. That’d be awesome.

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1 point

Every single console reveal, there’s a take exactly like this, and it always ages like milk. Every time.

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I don’t follow - is it going to somehow transform into something that isn’t a switch?

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1 point

I think I read that old joycons will still work with it in wireless mode.

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47 points

Cool for Nintendo fans but the ROG Ally has changed the game for me. I’ll miss Pokémon but they haven’t been good in a while so whatever.

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32 points

The Pokemon games all being the same caused me to get bored of them years ago. And now with them suing Palworld for ‘capturing monsters with an object and summoning them in 3d space’, a patent made after Palworld released their trailer, I find the Nintendo brand actively harmful to the state of gaming.

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14 points

They actively become easier and shorter every generation. Arceus brought a lot of cool stuff into the series and there was a little bit of hope that things would improve only for them to go back to the stale old formula that wouldn’t be as bad if the games weren’t so easy now that you could beat them by mashing A. I know it’s for kids but damn, the old games were somewhat challenging.

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14 points

The old games were beaten by a Twitch chat sending little more than random inputs to the game. Maybe the newer ones are worse, but let’s be real.

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18 points

Pokemon is literally the same game over and over, I hugely regretted my purchase of pokemon x cause it was literally a cloned game with barely any new features. It’s probably Nintendo’s most effective cash cow in terms of effort to capital reward.

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15 points

It is literally the biggest money maker in the world. The games sell about 3/5 as many copies as COD with a tiny fraction of the budget. And then they sell even more in merch. And there are people (like me in the past) that buy Nintendo consoles just for those games.

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That doesn’t contradict what they said. It being popular says nothing about quality, variety, or effort. In fact, it may be counter to them, as your example of CoD indicates.

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7 points

X and Y introduced Mega Evolution, arguably one of the greatest iterative improvements in Pokémon.

With the upcoming Pokémon Legends: Z-A in 2025, I’m thinking about replaying X and Y.

Scarlet and Violet were so disappointing that I too am hesitant about future Pokémon games. But I’ll keep my eyes and ears peeled to see how their upcoming games are. I no longer am a day one buyer of Pokémon games, after being burned badly on the rushed Scarlet/Violet games.

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9 points

The fact that Mega Evolutions are one of the greatest iterative improvements speaks to how stale it is.

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X&Y were awful though

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5 points

I jumped through a couple hoops to get Pokemon Infinite Fusion working on my Steam Deck & I’ve been having a blast slapping shit together to see how fucked up it looks.

Cleffa + Geodude made me giggle for a good 5 minutes.

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4 points

Sub in literally any Nintendo franchise and it’s the same problem, but Nintendo fans don’t care.

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5 points

I can play them on my Steam Deck. Just fyi.

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Oh I know, I’m just not a big fan of sailing the seas these days. But I might just give it a go with the ones I own just to see how they run.

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5 points

Well Windows is a no for me on that. And while the steam deck is nice and the OS runs on the ally too, it’s still a pc with all it’s pros and cons.

(I use both worlds BTW)

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2 points

The ROG Crate software is actually pretty good. It’s not perfect but I rarely have to interact with Windows at all and once you get used to the controls when doing so not all that bad. And I dislike Windows a lot, but if I feel that it’s mostly a non issue. I wouldn’t go for a SteamOS version either, as I like Gamepass.

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I switched to Linux probably about two years ago. I was annoyed that GamePass didn’t work (because MS specifically handles it in a way to make it not work). Then I just stopped caring. If I want to try a game, there’s other ways to (🏴‍☠️). MS specifically created their software to not work where I want to be, so they don’t deserve my money. I’m not going to pay my captor to keep me there. I’d happily pay for it again, but they need to meet me where I want to be, and they easily can if they choose to.

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2 points

Gamepass is the one reason I can’t switch. I’m with you on the crate software, pretty damn impressive.

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1 point

What are the pros and cons you’re considering, and how do they compare to the pros and cons of a Nintendo console?

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That’s a fair question which I have to cut a little short due to it being a huge topic:

The overhead of a full blown operating system you have to maintain is not a trivial thing. You have to update and maintain os, drivers and applications at least and it’s directed at all purpose use in general. That means all of the above and games might or might not fit well to a handheld device. Even if it’s maintained by a third party (eg Asus) there are many many moving parts that are all purpose. This might be a dialog box with unaccessible options you have to work around or games not working with the controls you need to fix and might never (for me steredenn on steam deck). You can however literally do what you want with it.

Compared to this a console is an optimized experience, golden cage. Things just work. Yes there might be the off chance but in general the producer has a system. 100% under their control and can test and optimize very well, which Nintendo debatably does.

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2 points

palworld is great

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40 points

Yuzu 2 when

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Nintendo lawsuit want to know your location

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Deny

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Denny’s

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If it’s anything like how the Wii was basically a GameCube it may not even be all that hard to rework existing switch emulators to work with switch 2 games. Given that it’s going to have full back compat I bet that’s why they went after switch emus so hard. They wanted to halt development as much as possible for as long as possible so it doesn’t eat away at their switch 2 sales.

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7 points

I recall reading something about Nintendo wanting to include Denuvo in the Switch 2. Will be interesting to see whether or not this one’s games and consoles are cracked wide open as readily as before.

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2zu

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