“The U.S. cannot treat Colombian migrants as criminals,” Petro wrote. Petro said even though there were 15,660 Americans without legal immigration status in Colombia, he would never carry out a raid to return handcuffed Americans to the United States. “We are the opposite of the Nazis,” he wrote, in a jab at Trump. Mexico also refused a request last week to let a U.S. military aircraft land with migrants.
Nobody’s ever gonna trust the US ever again after Trump. Guy just thinks he can bully entire countries to his will.
It’s a showing of everything that’s wrong with american exceptionalism…
That we elected him twice, not even consecutively, means that we can effectively never be trusted in our current state. Even if a psychopath leader is voted out, the American people are stupid enough to vote him back in once our goldfish memories fade.
May Europe and Latin America find their strength to be the democracies the world needs. The US, always a flawed example, can no longer be relied on even in matters of self-interest.
The way Nixon screwed up South Vietnam back in the 60s kind of indicated how the US puts excessively too much power in the hands of its presidents and result in random foreign policies
The random policies is the thing for me.
Talking (and sometimes going through with it) about pulling out of random international agreements and organisations like the Paris climate agreement and WHO. Then talking about invading other countries (including allies) and imposing tariffs on everything and everyone.
Also, both times that he got in, it seems like he had the previous administration’s achievements as his todo list for things to undo.
It’s like dealing with a whole new country every four or eight years.
Even if a psychopath leader is voted out, the American people are stupid enough to vote him back in once our goldfish memories fade.
Or a different psychopath leader doing and saying the exact same things, but: “The Republican party have learned their lesson, they’ve changed!”
He forgot the tagline to actually affecting American exceptionalism as a goal:
“Speak softly and carry a big stick”
Doing this bombastic stuff just makes him / the government look weak.
Note that I’m not subscribing to American exceptionalism, but describing past efforts to achieve / demonstrate it.
Trump speaks biggly and carries a soft stick.
Trump thinks tariffs are some great threat and yeah they cut into US imports but countries will just export to other countries instead. Meanwhile the US implodes from lack of goods since nobody can afford to pay the tariffs. The only thing Trump is going to achieve is accelerating this coming recession into a full blown depression.
Yup. Biden had just started to return stability and reassure allies, even with one arm tied behind his back for his entire term, just so that Trump can fuck everything up again. I hope a true American ally sees him for the threat he is and we have an Ebrahim Reisi situation
Guy just thinks he can bully entire countries to his will.
He leads the US. He was handed the most powerful military in the world and one of the most influencial economies.
He absolutely can bully whomever he wants.
Apparently Colombia and Mexico disagree, and they’re not even particularly powerful. Sounds more like the US is all bark, at the moment.
For a while. Until the rest of the world decides to not subsidize US deficits any more by using the dollar as the reserve currency.
Everyone needs to remember this is how the “Final Solution” started. They originally just wanted to deport everyone they didn’t like. Then other countries started saying No. so they came up with other ideas.
Who were… Legal citizens, yes? Deporting illegal migrants is not the same.
How is sending them to their home countries the same as sending them to death camps??
No. Not after all their rights and their citizenship were taken away.
See that’s the thing a lot of people don’t understand. Fascists often use the law and the system to LEGALLY implement all their horrific shit. Just because something is the law does not make it right. Laws can be changed, thus we shouldn’t use them as an argument for what is and isn’t right.
Let’s just imagine for a moment that tomorrow Trump and his little friends push through some law that allows them to strip every person with Swedish ancestry (for example) of their citizenship. Suddenly they could be deported, sure. And it would all be legal. Would you think it was right?
Your government is already talking about taking away birthright citizenship. And the GOP has shown us they are perfectly happy stripping at the very least some people of some of their rights already. Are you telling me you don’t think it could get any worse? Are you telling me that as long as it’s legal, it’s okay?
Again, this is how it starts…
Good reading here:
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/genocide-roma
"Prior to the Nazi regime taking power, Roma had been a subject of fascination and hatred in Europe. Though many viewed Roma as outsiders—and they were closely monitored by the authorities in Germany—the roughly one million Roma people in Europe lived diverse lives across the continent. Some Roma lived in caravans and traveled from town to town, selling horses and handcrafted products. Others lived in cities, towns, or villages doing a variety of jobs, from farming to fortune-telling to medicine.[3]
When the Nazi regime took over in 1933, little changed right away for the Roma. They were already subject to travel restrictions and investigations by the police. But in early 1934, a number of Roma came under threat from the “Law for the Prevention of Offspring with Hereditary Diseases.” This law legalized and encouraged forced sterilization for people who were considered medically likely to have children with a “defect” of some sort—disabilities, mental or physical, that the Nazi regime considered damaging to the “German race” and workforce. Between 1934 and 1945, over 300,000 people were forcibly sterilized, most of them women. Many of these women did not survive the procedure, which often had to be repeated, was extremely painful, and was often done without any anesthetic. In the 1930s, 500 German and Austrian Roma were sterilized.[4]
In 1935, there was another harsh blow to German Roma when the “Law for the Protection of German Blood and German Honor” was enacted. The first of the Nuremberg Laws, this law denied Jews their citizenship, banned marriages between members of “foreign races” and Germans, and took away political rights of so-called non-Germans.[5] Passed in September, the laws were expanded in November 1935 to include Roma. As a result, marriages were broken up, many Roma lost their jobs, and families faced destitution.
During this time, Roma began to face further restrictions on their lives. High rental prices, foreclosures, destruction of caravan sites, and harassment by the police were some of the ways the government controlled “Gypsy” populations. As part of a policy designed to “prevent” crime, Roma men capable of work were frequently rounded up and sent to concentration camps as “vagrants,” “work-shy,” or “asocial” prisoners. Families of traveling Roma were confined to small geographic areas, enabling the police to monitor them closely."
…how is forced sterilization along the lines of anything happening today with deportations?
I think you might have misunderstood the lesson that we’re taught about the Holocaust. It wasn’t important who Nazi Germany gurt, it’s what the Nazi’s did. Regardless of who they did it to. The Nazis threw away their own humanity to achieve their goals, that is always wrong. Everything else after that is just details. That’s what people are afraid of with Trump’s deportation mandate, that to actually achieve it migrants will need to be treated subhuman. To deport them as quickly as Trump wants America and American’s will have to throw away some more of their humanity. It’s not the same as Nazi Germany in that there aren’t death camps, but Trump and his allies want America to walk down that path a bit. It’s wrong.
Mass deportations are the prelude to death camps.
Mass deportations of legal citizens, sure. Nothing wrong with deporting illegal migrants.
If it was Americans illegally living in ,Colombia you’d be cheering for them to send the American back to the US.
Also, the actual prelude to death camps is banning and removing guns from the population.
Mass deportations of legal citizens, sure
you realize that’s what he’s already trying to do right?
That’s what ending birthright citizenship is all about. Millions of people who are currently considered to be American citizens will have that stripped from them and then they are free to be deported
Even before Trump, the US illegally deported lots of citizens by accident. Because practical legal protections against deportation were shit even back then.
So they don’t even have to make it legal. Just impossible to practically fight illegal deportation.
That’s not what ending birthright citizenship is about, it’s about stopping anchor babies or birthright tourism. It’s not about removing citizenship.
Do you know that the Jewish population in Germany were citizens? And then Hitler took their citizenship away. Just like they used to have rights, until they didn’t. Besides, just because something’s legal, doesn’t make it right. What’s legal and what’s not can change in the blink of an eye.
This person’s outright sadistic blindness or trolling aside, anyone reading this comment with good faith and not immediately having an aneurysm should remember that the once and current president once said, and I quote:
I like taking guns away early. Take the guns first, go through due process second.
Jews weren’t “legal citizens” in Nazi Germany. What is and isn’t “legal” is entirely made up.
They were prior to the law change. There is no law change here. The people being deported from the US were never us citizens.
I hope the rest of the world keeps standing up.
Colombia has nothing to lose. The country is already in the black list for narco traffic. They suffered political meddling from the US in the 70s/80s. What next? Invasion? The cartels would be the first to pick up arms to fight back.
I’m not looking for perfect. I’m looking for people saying fuck you to our newly installed dictator.
I would beg to differ. We have a lot to lose. We get millions of dollars for our armed forces and anti drug forces to fight the guerrillas (narco terrorists). If Petro keeps pushing, Trump could take that away. We are going through an increase of violence in the Catacumbo region. That means investors are already nervous. This issue with the US government could affect our economy even more. As always innocent folks will get caught in the middle of the armed conflict and any terrorist acts. We also have a ton of export trade with the US obviously starting with coffee, but lots of other industries (flowers, cacao, fruits, etc.)
Anyway, we could get fucked if Petro and Trump can’t work things out. I don’t expect they will, since they both behave like children.
If every country could come up with a way to personally annoy him (refuse to give away their largest territory, build taller buildings all around his hotels, call him a silly name, etc.) all the tariffs would essentially cancel each other out. If everything’s tariffed, nothing’s tariffed.
Unfortunately they’ve backed down already: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/26/world/americas/colombia-us-deportation-flights.html?unlocked_article_code=1.sU4.SJeu.KLeSKsinK61Z
I wish the lunatics voters that support this would realize how expensive each of these flights are, at tax payers expense! Easily $30k per flight and Trump is aiming for thousands of these flights!
I wish the lunatics voters that support this would realize how expensive each of these flights are, at tax payers expense!
I see that the US finally got a taste of the Rwanda plan.
If you’re into blaming your troubles on poor people and punishing them for it then it’s a good deal I guess.
