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Canada’s ruling Liberal Party has elected Mark Carney as its new leader and therefore Prime Minister, setting up a face-off between the former central banker and US President Donald Trump.

On Sunday afternoon the Liberal party announced Carney had won the contest to replace Justin Trudeau, who stepped down as leader in January after months of party infighting and poor polling.

However, celebrations for Carney and his team in Ottawa will be shortlived as Canada faces a trade war with its southern neighbour. Trump has threatened to levy broad tariffs on Canada’s imports and taunted that the country should become the 51st state of the US.

Carney is expected to immediately replace Trudeau, who was at the Liberal party event on Sunday.

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It sure seems like the Russians are just attacking any liberal leader, mounting extensive influence operations to get the ordinary people of their countries to hate them and want to get rid of them (and often to replace them with monsters, if any particular monsters are available).

I have not the first idea at all about Carney, I just know Trudeau. He seemed fine. I also have no particular evidence about the Russians being the ones who are doing all this, but the pattern of liberal leaders having all these wild uprisings against them which gets rid of them in the end seems absolutely unmistakable. And little pieces of the uprisings definitely show a consistent pattern of Russian influence, always in precisely the same direction, when little indications show through the cracks.

And, it definitely seems like a significant problem.

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This wasn’t some wild uprising, though. Canadians vote politicians out, that’s nothing new.

Trudeau and his Liberal party were seen as arrogant and out of touch. I don’t know that Carney is any better in that regard given his ties to the big shitty businesses which are ruining our society, but he’s certainly more financially literate than Trudeau was and people want that right now. He’s certainly qualified for the job.

Russia can eat a dick, but Liberal governments are spending enough time eating their own faces. They need to earn back the trust of their populace if they want to beat back Russian influence because these conditions are what makes it so easy.

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Trudeau and his Liberal party were seen as arrogant and out of touch. I don’t know that Carney is any better in that regard given his ties to the big shitty businesses which are ruining our society, but he’s certainly more financially literate than Trudeau was and people want that right now. He’s certainly qualified for the job.

See this is exactly what I was talking about.

Who decided that the vibe was that Trudeau was “arrogant and out of touch”? Who decided that a totally different politician – surely one who is equally arrogant and out of touch, on a personal level – was “financially literate” and “certainly qualified for the job”?

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He’s been prime minister for like 10 years, like 3 elections. People in democracies get tired of leaders after a while.

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…the voters did when polled or asked. There’s other reasons but that is a big one.

For question two, the rest of the Liberal party decided that.

Like, are you at all informed about Canadian politics at the moment or are you just shooting from the hip?

Edit: Carney is not a politician, btw. I mean, sure, now he is. But that’s not his background. He is an outsider politically speaking.

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Bro those are the facts. Trudeau was drama teacher before jumping into politics. Carney was governor of the bank of England, then governor of the bank of Canada. As for his arrogance, if you don’t think he is you haven’t paid attention to Canadian politics.

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Oh he’s been losing popularity for a while now. There is a reason why he had a minority gov this time. I don’t think a pm was ever able to stay 4 mandate in canada?

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The Russian playbook is very real. They want to rule the world.

https://washingtonspectator.org/project-russia-reveals-putins-playbook/

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Freeland has a LOT of ties to Ukraine and Russia,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrystia_Freeland

So what’s her reasoning for stirring the pot and causing trouble? I’d venture a guess she didn’t think Trudeau was doing enough to help Ukraine…

That resignation and disagreement opened up the Cons and NDP to try and steal the spot light.

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This isn’t the first time I’m hearing such, even just this very hour. Fareed’s Take: Trump’s revolution in foreign policy.

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Not clear why you need to bring up Russophobia on every topic. Plenty of US right wing and oil funding for destabilizing Canada, all the while supporting the demonism of war on Russia, by pretending that high diesel/home heating fuel was the result of carbon tax. The full CIA puppetry of all western political leaders meant never addressing the actual cause of fuel inflation, and if a Russian narrative could reach Canadians/west, it would point out the extreme hypocricy of such attacks.

The point of your anti-Russia claims, with even the more absurd “US wants Greenland to gift it to Russia”, is that every response to a US empire/oligarch enshittification is to escalate vs Russia.

Not that unprogrammed Canadians exist, but the only hope for the country is to de-escalate against the enemies the US has chosen for the country. There could be some minimal hope that an economist brain acts rationally.

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Plenty of US right wing and oil funding for destabilizing Canada, all the while supporting the demonism of war on Russia, by pretending that high diesel/home heating fuel was the result of carbon tax.

full CIA puppetry of all western political leaders

US wants Greenland to gift it to Russia

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