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The article doesn’t explain how, where the money went, or how the IRS knows this.

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Cutting staff thereby reducing the IRS’s ability to find and go after wealthy tax cheats.

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Thanks! I wasn’t doubting the article, just wanted more info.

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The fourth sentence of the article explains it

The Post reports today that the IRS’s internal projections estimate that the DOGE-driven disruptions to the IRS since the inauguration are on track to have reduced tax receipts by more than $500 billion by April 15th. This, to be clear, is not a final tally. It’s not April 15th yet. It’s a projection based on historical data, the number of people who’ve filed, paid owed amounts of tax etc.

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For every dollar spent on IRS staffing, etc, it’s estimated to be at least a 7x return. Any disruptions are going to cost a lot with that in mind. Also, I find it a little misguided to question the IRS, an agency that shows its work’s opinion on DOGE, an “agency?” Which has failed to show its work and has been caught lying frequently.

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Yeah the article is just rehashing a wapo article that’s linked, the original one is much clearer

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If only it weren’t paywalled

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Download the “latest” .xpi file from here and install it in your browser. Bypasses almost all paywalls.

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Lost.

Not saved. Lost. Elon and the Musketeers lost this nation half a trillion dollars.

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So far.

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You’re spinning it wrong. “With the doge cuts, we saved you half a trillion dollars in taxes”

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I’m not sure where they expect the loss, but I’m sure it’s not regular people whose paychecks have taxes withheld, and who file their taxes without major fraud.

They’ll lose money off people like the mango Mussolini whose corporate shell game is so complex that he used to brag the IRS couldn’t afford to hire enough people to audit his taxes

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…that’s not what happened.

This is like a fuck off huge gas turbine generator spinning at full chat and then just starting to take parts off of it and snipping fluid lines. One of the features of turbines is that they will continue to run for a bit even when they’re heading in the direction of catastrophic failure, since it’s all angular momentum and no reciprocation. But it IS going to catastrophically fail.

This is the system just eating itself and money being - at best - siphoned into someone’s pockets, or more likely, just being outright wasted. The USAID cuts, for instance, basically locked an absolute shitload of consumables and perishables in warehouses to spoil. That’s what we’re talking about. And that’s only the most obvious example.

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Trump did say he’s only just getting started.

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Well April 2nd is our supposed “national day of prosperity”. Which analysts think means he is going to enact global tariffs as well as all the retaliatory tariffs he is planning.

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Such doublespeak. So stupid.

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No, the HAVE lost this nation half a trillion, and they are still losing more. Just “they lost” sounds like a past thing that’s over now.

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And don’t forget the 10 trillion in lost war plane sales due to "toning them down in case our allies turn on us’, just like he has turned on Canada and Europe.

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Another 4 months and they could have lost enough to forgive all student loans. :/

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From what I hear…elon, thief and their cronies are specifically wrecking government to push a corporate takeover…jeeze. it’s like robocop.

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And/or destabilizing the country’s economy and political power worldwide so our enemies like Russia can do whatever they want without the US interfering. The complete destruction of US soft power via things like USAID and the blatant attempts to destroy any collaboration with our allies seems to point more in that direction.

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Different groups, different motivations, but they’re headed in the same direction more or less so they’re working together. Trump is working to install himself as a dictator under orders from Putin. He wants to be for the US what Lukashenko is for Belarus. Ultimately he’ll be Putin’s puppet but he’ll largely have free reign within the US which is the only thing he cares about. He’s destroying all the US soft power and doing everything he can to turn all the US allies against it. Domestically he’s painting targets on the backs of as many minorities as he can in order to keep the useful idiots that elected him distracted.

Musk meanwhile is working to establish an oligarchy and to steal or destroy as much of the US government as he can manage. Ultimately his goals are fairly transparent as he’s motivated entirely by naked greed. Since his efforts hurt US foreign relations as much as the domestic situation he’s a useful tool to Trump in his efforts to neuter the US for Putin.

Then you’ve got the Christian nationalists in the GOP that don’t really care about what’s going on as long as they’re allowed to trample all over the first amendment and declare Christianity as the official US religion with all the associated bigotry and discrimination. Since that plays to Trump’s efforts to distract his supporters he’s perfectly fine with it, but likely keeping a close eye on that group lest any of them think about usurping his crown, particularly when he still hasn’t really gotten to go full dictator yet.

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I would disagree on your Musk-analysis. He and the other techbros are not after the money but after the power and influence that being in these positions nets them. The monetary gain is a side-effect. The goal is to enforce their unrealistic ideas about how to reshape society. Look up ‘Longtermism’ and the ridiculous ideas of one Curtis Yarvin. Remember MAGAts are fond of yammering about the World Economic Forum and the Gates, Soros etc? How these are supposedly trying to reshape society into some big brother-esque dystopia?

That is what the tech-oligarchs are facilitating.

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Worse than RoboCop, we don’t have a cool robot cop shooting dicks off to show for it

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Yet.

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That we know of.

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Best I can do is cartwheels and handstands

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More like breaking wheels and handmaids.

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Much efficient.

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Very saved.

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