95 points

Decided to give outlook a try cause of good integration on Windows. Uninstalled it the second I saw an ad on my inbox. it even shows up as regular mail and you wouldn’t know it is an ad unless you look closely at the small Ad sign at the corner.

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28 points

Also the new version, which might be beta still, just sends you to a web browser to do shit in. If I wanted to open emails in a web browser in the first place then I’d do that.

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I mean, I’m fairly sure the new client is a web wrapper, either electron or some alternative since the actual application has parity with the web version (I use it at work). If it is redirecting you to an actual browser there’s likely something wrong with your configuration.

Since I use the enterprise version there’s no ads whatsoever. I don’t find it particularly good but it’s decent enough.

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2 points

It is. Most new Microsoft apps are web apps. Though they’re ditching electron for some better web wrappers.

They’re also beginning the process of passing 365/Enterprise Outlook for this new watered down Outlook. Enterprise users are obviously pissed to see “Try the new outlook!” hovering over their regular outlook like a cloud of doom.

The outlook subreddit made a gigantic list of feature imparity. Microsoft has made some feature progress since then in preview. But it’ll suck when they actually release it I’m sure.

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1 point

well there’s the windows mail app that exists

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19 points

what?? I’ve had Outlook for years and never saw any ads? Did you download some sketchy cracked version?

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The new outlook on windows 11 23H2. And there’s also a subscription model just to remove ads lmao

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5 points

Windows 23H2?? I’m on windows 11, are you from the future or something? How awful is it on a scale from 9 to 10?

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2 points

Of course there is.

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7 points

Ugh, native ads are the worst! 🤬

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3 points

It also adds “search with bing” to Android long touch context menu, when using any chromium based browser.

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3 points

Huh, I used to use Outlook in a previous company, it had the old look and that, if I was still using it I’d never thought we would get ads built in there 🫠

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That’s why I’ve set up Outlook on K9.

Second reason is because installing outlook adds Bing search to long press context menu.

https://www.xda-developers.com/microsoft-outlook-long-press-menu-bing-search/

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67 points

We are REQUIRED to use outlook at my job, along with all the MS bullshit. I’ve changed my Thunderbird interface to make it look exactly like outlook, synced my calendars, and kept using it for the past year or so. They have no clue. I hate Microsoft with passion, I will spent hours of my free time to find ways to be out of their ecosystem if I need to, and I usually manage to do so.

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13 points

Cant they see the email domain? Or thunderbird accesses outlook?

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24 points

AFAIK thunderbird can access outlook.

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3 points

I honestly don’t know much about how that works. I’ve just managed to sync outlook emails to Thunderbird with the Exchange protocol or something. I get taken to my organisation page once every two weeks or so, for the 2FA, and everything works just fine. I’ll just play dumb if IT ever ask me question but so far so good.

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3 points

You know we can detect every application you have through tools like Nessus, right? Your IT guys are either morons or they just let you get away with it because it’s easier than hearing people pitch a fit about software they’re not allowed to use.

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10 points

There are people in my workplace (which uses Gmail) who willingly use Outlook to access it then complain about Outlook problems. Outlook is the biggest piece of trash email client software I’ve ever used.

At one place I worked at, it was OBLITERATING any mails from one particular person because of a completely unrelated filter I had. Email notifications from them would appear for a few seconds, then the email would completely disappear (not even in deleted, or in any filter folders). Everyone else cced could see the emails except me, and IT couldn’t figure it out. I had to disable ALL my filters which trashed my inbox with stupid work circulars. Fuck Outlook.

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My work won’t allow thunderbird for o365. :(

How do I convince the security dudes to allow access to it?

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58 points

True gigachads write emails from the terminal.

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12 points

mutt ftw

or elm, if you wanna go oldschool

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I like to use telnet

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7 points
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The Lemmy client I’m using thinks your account is

Edit: And somehow I managed to take the screenshot at 4:20 AND I’m not even high. Yet.

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3 points

telnet mailhost 110

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1 point

There’s a blast from the past. I used Telnet as an undergrad back in the 90s.

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39 points

Cannot Start Microsoft Outlook. Cannot open the Outlook window. The set of folders cannot be opened. The operation has failed.

As the de-facto IT admin in a small business, this message haunts my dreams and I hate that I know it by heart. Time to make a new mail profile and configure all the accounts again. Its not like it’s the seventh time on this computer. It’s not like I’ve reinstalled Outlook three times already as per Microsoft’s “accepted solution”.

There’s a reason I don’t use Microsoft software on my hardware.

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One time, when I had to use outlook, someone called me asking why I wasn’t replying to emails since like 3 days. Turned out Outlook had decided I could receive emails, but when I was replying, the email would put in a special folder “to be sent” or something, because the MS outgoing server was not working. I looked like a fucking imbecile when I figured it out and tried to explain what happened.

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Another fucking stupid outlook thing is that you can only schedule send emails from the Web client, not the desktop app. If you try to do it on the desktop app it sits locally in your outbox and only sends if the PC holding the email is on. And if it’s off when the scheduled time passes, the email just sits in the outbox. So incredibly stupid.

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2 points

My current employer doesn’t use Outlook, but I’ve worked for several in the past that do, and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen all of those messages at some point.

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3 points

What do they use? Is there a viable alternative?

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4 points

My current employer is fully into Google’s ecosystem, so we don’t use a dedicated email client.

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1 point

I just use Outlook as a PWA as part of the M365 system. Works great imo. The desktop client can be a bit of a resource hog. I installed the PWA as an app and haven’t looked back.

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38 points

Back when I was on windows, I didn’t even bother with clients anymore. The new outlook has ads in it and barely works.

I use Thunderbird now since they updated their interface and it’s very pretty and fast. Couldn’t recommend it enough.

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Yeah, I never thought I’d use a dedicated email client anywhere but work, but Thunderbird is really good.

I also use K-9 on mobile, which I like even more, but marking messages as spam never seems to stick. I still keep getting absolute trash from Google, even though I unsubscribed to updates a long time ago.

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I was a K-9 user for a time there. I sprung for the Nine client’s 1 time buy for my work email so I could control with a schedule notifications and mail retrieval.

I now use it for my Gmail client so I can add inline photos to my messages on Android.

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