Truth. I thought the show turned Naomi and Holden into twats but they did a pretty good job with Chrisjen. I’m still mad about the Arjun bamboozle. Arjun 1 is best Arjun.
Yeah they chose weird edges to soften. Make Amos less intimidating and batshit? No sir, my boy is supposed to be a crayon eater restrained just barely by Naomi, Holden or his love for children.
I feel like most of it comes from the lack of forced perspective in the show. You never really see stuff from certain characters angles like you do in the book.
The show could only show a generic third person perspective, you never really got holdens insights from the chapters from his perspective, or Naomi’s from hers. So they kinda blurred together in the show I found.
Seconded. The Expanse is an untapped goldmine of strong characters and weirdness.
Damn sex pests. That was so disappointing. He did some damage but hopefully his shitty behavior doesn’t ruin the part of the show he’s not in.
She is pretty much the best character on the show by virtue of being the best cast actor. Wow what a good choice. I give a close second to Amos.
Thomas Jane was also fantastic. Same with Jared Harris. Shame they couldn’t secure him for later appearances, his character is great and he did the belta accent so well.
interesting. I haven’t engaged in any online dialog about the expanse so maybe this is a super unpopular opinion but I felt the actor seemed really uncomfortable with the swearing and didn’t start off as that kind of character and just weirdly changed one episode
Amos on the other hand was incredible. He, Drummer, Draper and Miller really carried that show.
I like how every modern Star Trek show just ignores the silly idea that everyone has given up swearing in the 23rd and 24th century.
Most trek shows were on primetime network television. Once they went to streaming, the swearing came back. 
Although, even during the primetime network era, we got plenty of alien swearwords, mostly in Klingon. One or two in Romulan.
Yeah, but that was said in a movie where they could potentially have sweared as much as they wanted to. Or at least acknowledged that ‘dumbass’ wouldn’t be some shocking thing to a guy from the future.
I laughed out loud when Spock went “OH F…” and then they cut to the title in STNW.
I like the old shows more because everyone acts appropriately to their rank and station. In the new shows a captain can go like “fuck this ima go punch someone and act super emotional and irrational” because that’s what a star fleet captain or anyone star fleet would actually do.
Right. And nobody cares because he’s the best man for the job for some reason.
I also miss professionals exploring space, solving problems with science and diplomacy, engaged in intriguing stories that explored the complex moral and ethical issues of the day instead of just blowing shit up all the time and with some superficial lip-service pandering to certain social issues just to appease fans but without much more lasting presence than mere tokenism and self back-patting for the effort.
You can hear O’Brien cuss up a storm under his breath if you turn your volume up really loud
The lack of swearing wasn’t originally part of the “utopian ideal”, it was in fact censorship from the broadcasters.
The universal translator autocorrect used to be turned up to high. Probably for the best.
Yeah, you’ve kinda just gotta suspend your disbelief. I’m going back and watching House for the first time since it ended, and it is RIDICULOUS how much these characters don’t swear at each other.
Best actress for the roll
