Chinese Carmaker Overtakes Tesla as World’s Most Popular EV Maker::Elon Musk once scoffed at the notion that BYD could compete with his company. Now, the automaker run by billionaire Wang Chuanfu is poised to be the new No. 1 in electric vehicles.
The fact that the headline says “Chinese Carmaker” and not “BYD” says a lot about their international market share.
To be honest, I think it more tells you the article was written by an American for an American audience.
I’m not sure if it’s that or clickbait to get you to find out who it is. That kinda crap has been rampant lately.
Could be both though honestly. Either way, I’m sick of it.
Also says a lot that despite that they still make more. Having more global sales in effectively one country is more impressive if anything.
Eh, it’s diminished when that one country holds nearly 17% of earth’s entire population, or nearly as much as the next 6 countries by population combined.
When you have that much market, nearly anything you do will break population-based records.
India and China have similar populations. It’s a bit disingenuous to say China has as much pop as the next 6 countries.
oh look, someone doing ev that can actually make vehicles, and theyve eclipsed tesla… no wayy…
no one could have predicted this except, ya know, everyone.
I don’t even care about that. I want a car I can afford and fit my family including luggage in. Give me two hours of battery life with one hour of charging and I’m sold.
Perhaps consider an used car instead of a brand new one? New electric vehicle is worse for the environment than one that already exists even if it runs on petrol/diesel
And yet so many people are stuck in the pyramid scheme that is Tesla’s stock.
And those who have ETFs or index funds that track the S&P 500 also have Tesla stock as a hot trash albatross to deal with.
Man, Tesla is known for their very poor quality these days as well.
I recall 6-7 years ago I had a family member complain about their tesla breaking down. Today, we know this is pretty standard for all of them. We’ve also all seen how trashy the build quality is outside the electronics as well.
So… Even if these are trashy quality, are they really much worse than Tesla? I look forward to hearing more. I hope this shames Western companies into catching up, the fucking idiots.
Everyone hates on Tesla for obvious CEO reasons , but Tesla still has great cars. I test drove every electric car manufacturer and model available in central Florida throughout 2021/2022. The model y is by far the best in nearly every aspect. Nothing comes close.
My model y had one panel issue. They gave me a loaner car, it was fixed in 2 days. I haven’t had any issues since. I drove it from Orlando, Florida to Toronto,CA and back without issue. It calculates where and how long to charge to continue your trip.
Again, everyone gives it shit but the “self-driving” is 10/10 on the highway ( 7/10 on local roads). It’s not fancy lane assist and you’d have to be literally sleeping at the wheel to crash while it’s engaged. It made driving there and back a breeze.
Best car I’ve driven so far. Hands down.
The model Y comfort and quality is garbage compared to any Audi, BMW, or ESPECIALLY Porsche. You are on crack if you think Tesla quality is above the Germans. It’s a shitty muscle car with a good drivetrain.
I have driven the iX and Taycan several times and comfortability is just better in a Tesla. My brother in law is very well off. He has a Mercedes, Porsche, bmw, McLaren and a Tesla. He rather daily drive the Tesla.
Data and consumer reporting consistently rank Tesla as one of, and frequently THE, most unreliable car company by the numbers as far as quality control. It has nothing to do with Musk hate. The company is infamous for ex-managers confessing that they were told to ship them with the defects because most people didn’t bother to have them fixed.
You “only” had a panel issue that required multiday service. That’s not supposed to happen with brand new cars.
I’m glad you enjoy the car and driving it though, I bet they are great when they’re at their best. Apparently, the China-based ones are fine very well. But it’s okay to criticize things that should be criticized.
Out of curiosity, how do you use the self-driving? Do you pay attention to the road with your hands on the wheel in case it fails or do you just, I don’t know, look at the landscape? If you pay attention to the road what’s the benefit over cruise control?
On the highway, I haven’t had it fail or do anything weird in over a year. I watch the road, but keep my hands off. Daily commute, especially when there’s traffic, is much less of a mental burden. I’m much more at ease to check my phone or look up a song. Local roads, I keep my hand a 3’ o’clock while on the armrest. Not as liberal with diverting my eyes. Letting it do all the work makes driving better, it’s definitely more relaxing.
I don’t wanna be that guy, but BYD are not only garbage tofu cars, they are also HEAVILY subsidized by the CCP in an effort to dump on the competition.
You can be that guy all you want, those garbage tofu cars are still dominating the market.
I know they are dominating the market. But I’m explaining why they are. It’s NOT because they make superior cars Each car is sold at a loss with the funding/backing of the China government with the sole purpose to dump(kill domestic competition).
Amazon prime sorta did this on a micro scale. Dump their pricing to kill Barnes and Noble and after they go out of business, they open and replace them with their own stores. But instead of Amazon funding the dump, it’s the god damn CCP and our entire auto industry.
How are they garbage? For instance BYD makes the safest batteries available. They started making electric cars about the same time as Tesla.
You are either not informed or TikTok has brain washed you. BYD leads the pack for most battery related fires than any other car manufacturer.
I don’t use TikTok at all.
In EU Tesla has a marketshare equivalent to the rest of EV top 10 combined, I’d guess Tesla also has the most fires of any manufacturer in EU.
https://evmarketsreports.com/byds-growing-market-share-in-chinas-ev-market/
In China BYD has 7 of the top 10 most sold models, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 9. Tesla only has 3rd and 8th. So obviously BYD sell way more cars in China than Tesla.
I’m not sure how the numbers shown 11 for Byd and 5 for Tesla for 2020-2022 together with the others, can in any way add up to 640 in first quarter of 2022??
The numbers of the article you linked simply don’t make any sense. But apart from that, there is no real indication BYD or the other Chinese brands should be more prone to fires than Tesla.
I see a chart where BYD is at the top for fires… but is that proportional to the prevalence of the brand? I can’t tell whether it’s disproportionately high, disproportionately low, or what.
The best hint is it’s got 11 fires to Tesla’s 5, which does seem disproportionately high…
Because it’s been tested to be way safer than other batteries.
https://evpowerhouse.com.au/blog/byd-blade-battery/
One of the primary concerns with EVs is battery safety, especially during accidents. Traditional lithium-ion batteries have been prone to overheating and combustion. However, the Blade Battery boasts several safety features, starting with its use of lithium iron phosphate (LFP) for the cathode material. LFP chemistry offers superior stability, even at temperatures as high as 930 °F (500 °C), making it significantly safer than conventional lithium-ion batteries.
That means it’s generally safer in theory because it more chemically stable.
The Blade Battery has also passed industry-standard tests, including the “Everest” test, where a nail puncture is used to check the battery’s resistance to ignition during an internal short circuit. Unlike other batteries that charred or exploded during this test, the BYD Blade Battery remained cool at 30-60 °C (85-140 °F), demonstrating its exceptional heat management.
Practical test results confirm this, and damage that will make other batteries burn explosively, merely makes this battery warm.
But it’s not 100% safe, there have been accidents that shouldn’t have happened, but did anyway. This is being investigated, and it is still considered significantly safer than competing batteries.
I wouldn’t go all out saying all Chinese made things are garbage. The majority of cellphones are produced there and many of them are not garbage.
Agreed, China can produce garbage and it can produce amazing things.
The thing is that companies that outsource to China often want much cheaper manufacturing, which obviously results in lower quality.
They can produce stuff at the same quality and probably at a higher quantity as anyone else (except maybe for extremely specialised stuff which only 1 company in the world can do)
I am shocked that a Chinese company with access to materials is selling heavily subsided EVs. Shocked! Meanwhile in the US, nobody can make them in quantity and when they do Americans don’t want them. Shocked!
None of you would purchase this car to any Toyota quality wise as well. These things are sub Mitsubishi quality.
Predicted for this quarter. Musk has been scoffing the idea, whilst watching them catch him and simultaneously shooting himself in the foot with his own plans.
Meh, the US will slap enough tariffs on these things to make their own Autoindustry competitive again.
So will the EU.
But china has a gigantic middle-class that can afford these things, so I hope they all switch to EV en masse… it’s a win for the planet!
Tariff slapping had been tried by Trump. Very poor outcomes. There will be a more moderated approach, but we will need to see how that pans out
