As the message says, the PS5 doesn’t support any Bluetooth audio. It doesn’t matter if it’s made by Sony, you cannot connect audio devices to a PS5 via Bluetooth.
Ps4 does, what pepega shit is this
(It is a meme I stole I am not currently attempting to connect a headset, but I am nonetheless bothered by ps5s lack of bluetooth)
Most likely they’d have to pay royalties to use Bluetooth software on their device, and they deemed the cost too high. The same thing is true for HDMI and other things. They’re proprietary, so sometimes devices won’t support it so they don’t have to pay royalties. (Unrelated, but I honestly don’t understand how HDMI still exists though with DisplayPort being available without the licensing costs. It just controls so much of the market that it can’t die.)
why do companies want to pay royalties for hdmi when display port is better
I can’t find anything about Bluetooth being proprietary and requiring royalty fees.
That’s fuckin insane. I had no idea it couldn’t even do that. The crazier thing is looking it up and seeing all the fanboys defending this as actually a good thing
It didn’t originally, but it had a bluetooth transmitter it was using for the joycons and other controllers. A system update in 2021 added bluetooth audio support. The patch noted that not every headset would work, and microphones won’t work at all, but it’s there. Go to System Settings -> Bluetooth Audio to use it. I haven’t had any problems getting stuff to connect, but I’ve also only tried pairing two things so that’s a tiny sample size. One of those has volume control that successfully sends volume up/down commands to the Switch, the other fails to adjust the volume.
The PS5 also uses bluetooth for its controllers, so they could do the same thing if they wanted.
After Apple , Sony is the hardware tech company that I hate the most. They have always had retrograde and protectionist thinking with their products like Nintendo.Betamax x VHS war was a great example
The vita was amazing, but destroyed by the stupid proprietary memory cards that were obscenely expensive
Then again, the Xperias are pretty damn good and use stock Android without all the bloat that other manufacturers add.
If anyone reading this is considering cheaper Sony bluetooth headphones versus the comparable Anker product, go with Anker! The speaker and a few models of headphones I’ve used were much better and cheaper than the comparable Sony product.
I’m on the Anker a3212 but I should have gone with the wi1000x: I actually wanted ambient passthrough. the difference was like 8 or 9 times the price so I’m still very happy with anker
I have Samson headphones that I notice the build/material quality is a bit nicer than Anker, I had the Life Q20 and they fell apart, but that was after something like two years of rough use, although the actual speaker and electronics work fine and holds a charge. But yeah for the price I haven’t seen any other brand perform as well.
I’d say the HP is at least on par with them. They’re software locking which RAM or WiFi modules you can use in their laptops and theyuse as much proprietary components as possible in their desktops and servers, just because they can. And that’s not even talking about printers…
4th place I think would go to LG, but thankfully they’re not big enough to be noticeable
Their professional CD audio recorders only take CDRs with special “generation bits” in some desperate stupid attempt to reduce copying even though everybody else’s CD recorders don’t care about the bit.
They invented their stupid proprietary memory sticks even though SD cards were cheaper and more readily available.
The power plugs for their devices of course are not barrel plugs so you can’t replace them with a cheap and easily available replacement.
They’re complete assholes to their customers.
To be honest, the real problem with betamax was that Sony never thought about longer tape lengths. They just designed a cartridge and then got in trouble when they had to catch up with VHS when VHS offered longer play time. People wanted to record a football game when they were away and you just couldn’t do that with early Betamax. And even later on, VHS stayed supreme in playback length. Even though video quality was never as good as Betamax. I guess this also goes to show is that most people don’t care about the quality of a device but the usability of a device. Which brings us right back and why people would want to use bluetooth audio even if it is a sub optimal experience.
All Japanese tech and adjacent companies are so extremely corporatised. Panasonic, Toshiba, Fuji, Mitsubishi etc. They protect their profits through proprietary connectors and firmware, and the overworked Japanese populace puts up with it over there. Where it’s for an international market, that’s made clear by the fact that there’s almost never a Japanese language option (see: games and other media that protects the corporations’ IP for Japanese voice actors). Living there I was always disturbed by how the government let this happen and there was no social movement to do anything about it. The zaibatsu are still in control of the country, of course.
I got legit angry at it, but it makes sense, there is a very slight but noticeable delay in almost all bluetooth audio. Sony certainly wouldn’t want to taint their brand by something that small
Boost this one to the top, it’s the official reason given by sony. You can disparage it if you want, but it has technical merit. The audio codecs supported by mainstream bluetooth devices are meant for music, where you want the highest possible quality and can tolerate a slight delay between when you press play and when the music actually starts.
In video games this means you get a noticable delay on the audio. With classic video file playback like a movie, this can be compensated for by delaying the visuals so thay match up with the audio, but delaying the visuals in a video game is an even worse experience for the player.
Sony’s use of a proprietary audio codec via their wireless controllers is pretty justified. They’re able to optimize for latency and it shows (or rather, it doesn’t, since you probably would never notice it).
That’s a very high fucking horse to be standing on top off when their device is specifically made to be plugged into a television. Y’know, the thing that almost never can display an image with less than 100 ms of latency even in “game mode”. Any decent bluetooth codec has less latency than a standard TV so that’s a bullshit excuse.
Also there are low latency bouetooth codecs like AptX-LL with less than 40ms of E2E delay. Sony could enable bluetooth for those devices if it can negociate a low latency codec. They could show a warning about how they can’t guarantee the user experience. But they won’t.
The real reason is that they want to lock their users into a walled garden where they have an effective oligopoly. It’s a very old and scummy business tactict. It’s that simple and there’s no need to regurgitate their pathetic excuses.
It has hypercapitalistic anti consumer merit
It’s not okay to make excuses for it
It is purely to make profit of a customer seen as incompetent
Just because it’s a valid business case for making money
Even if to prevent bad experiences on their premium product
Nothing other than a failure of the capitalist system
No need to excuse it
You know what’s worse than audio with a 0.04 ms delay? No audio. Guarantee anyone who hooks up a pair of $20 Bluetooth headphones instead of their officially licensed $150 PS5 headset isn’t gonna notice.
This is why I hate consoles. The only “consoles” I would use are PC-based, such as Steam Deck or self-built desktop PC with SteamOS.
This way I am not locked, games are cheaper and I can move/sync game save.
In fairness, I was using my Bluetooth headphones on my deck the other day and had to switch to external audio because the latency, slight as it was, was utterly messing with my ability to play Black Mesa.
I agree.
If there’s something console exclusive that I want, I just emulate it. I don’t have the best computer, so it’s still a better experience on a real console (if it’s a new game, obviously), but it’s good for trying to see if I’ll like the game or not.
Console-only players love to tell that their console is much cheaper than PC, but what they don’t tell:
- Limited amount of games.
- No emulators.
- Can’t use as PC (e.g. elderly parents, for web browsing, with M&K)
- You can’t turn your console into home server/media player.
- Can’t have mods (both game and OS).
Xbox users, when SSD fails, they can’t replace it. They have to bring it to authorized repair service for SSD change for ~$200-$300.
Playstation, if you jailbreak it AND play online - Sony will permaban your account (I have personal experience from this). Which means - I will never ever buy Sony console again.
So what I am trying to tell that consoles (xbox/ps) are basically a scam.
they want you to buy their specific ps5 earbuds. It is absolutely inane, the tech is all there but not available. Personally my smart tv can connect to my bluetooth earbuds so I just do that
Likely this. I have to use my bose headphones wired into the controller, meanwhile, I can just pair the same headphones with my Nintendo switch without issue.
Don’t give Nintendo a free pass on that, it was years before they added support for Bluetooth audio
