6 points

Shouldā€™ve gotten an Xbox

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12 points

Except they donā€™t support USB OR Bluetooth audio.

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3 points

No way, not even usb!?

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36 points

Itā€™s weird because thereā€™s a 3.5mm port on the controller you can use. Which I usually end up using, or Bluetooth through my TV. But itā€™s really silly that they donā€™t just say ā€œBluetooth audio sucks, use at your own riskā€ and let you have it.

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I (think) I have the same headphones as op. They look like the WH-CH700Nā€™s. Decent headphones, not the fanciest. Anyway, they have a 3.5 mm port. I use them with my Roku remote all the time

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26 points

Bluetooth does, legitimately, suck, for gaming though.

The only official two-way audio profile (that is, mic and speaker working simultaneously) mandates a low bitrate mono audio.

Stereo audio itself has a slight latency which may be fine for music or even movies (especially with lip sync adjustments), but for gaming it can be a problem when your audio is a big part of your situational awareness.

I donā€™t mind not supporting Bluetooth for games, at least for multiplayer. 3.5mm to controller and a proprietary protocol for the audio is the perfect compromise. For single player or media, though, Iā€™d agree itā€™s dumb.

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2 points

Iā€™m more of the camp it should warned that it is worse for gaming with an explanation of why, then just out right disallowing it. As was said, no all people are playing competitive nor does it present a problem for all games.

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20 points

IMO even if it does suck for latency, not everyone is playing competitively and needs perfect latency and bluetooth should be supported for everything. Rhythm games on pc and mobile even have adjustment settings for terrible latency.

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1 point

Depending on the profile, itā€™s not just a little latency that would be slightly annoying, it can be easily half a second or more, which is enough to be disorienting even in normal slow paced gameplay.

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2 points

This is my issue with it. I have a good wired headset I plug in when I am playing online multiplayer or anything that needs good sound. I have a Bluetooth headset I use when I donā€™t want the hassle of wires or am listening to music and might stand up and walk around or something.

Let me have the choice and donā€™t treat me like an idiot for not caring about laggy audio when Iā€™m just playing Football Manager and listening to Spotify.

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43 points

This is why I hate consoles. The only ā€œconsolesā€ I would use are PC-based, such as Steam Deck or self-built desktop PC with SteamOS.

This way I am not locked, games are cheaper and I can move/sync game save.

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3 points

I really hope someday we will have some way to transfer digital games between platforms

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2 points

I agree

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6 points
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In fairness, I was using my Bluetooth headphones on my deck the other day and had to switch to external audio because the latency, slight as it was, was utterly messing with my ability to play Black Mesa.

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5 points

At least they treat you like an adult and give you the choice to use bluetooth, even if it may give you a lesser experience with latency.

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6 points

thatā€™s Bluetooth for ya

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4 points

I agree.

If thereā€™s something console exclusive that I want, I just emulate it. I donā€™t have the best computer, so itā€™s still a better experience on a real console (if itā€™s a new game, obviously), but itā€™s good for trying to see if Iā€™ll like the game or not.

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11 points

Console-only players love to tell that their console is much cheaper than PC, but what they donā€™t tell:

  1. Limited amount of games.
  2. No emulators.
  3. Canā€™t use as PC (e.g. elderly parents, for web browsing, with M&K)
  4. You canā€™t turn your console into home server/media player.
  5. Canā€™t have mods (both game and OS).

Xbox users, when SSD fails, they canā€™t replace it. They have to bring it to authorized repair service for SSD change for ~$200-$300.

Playstation, if you jailbreak it AND play online - Sony will permaban your account (I have personal experience from this). Which means - I will never ever buy Sony console again.

So what I am trying to tell that consoles (xbox/ps) are basically a scam.

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1 point

Hey, SOME console games support mods now. Skyrim in particular has console compatible mods.

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Handheld PCs are good way to go. The Steam Deck created the competition from different OEMs making Windows handheld PCs.

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15 points

Sony has totally bad vertical integration. It would be so powerful for them because they produce so much stuff.

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6 points

To overcome this, I got a cheap low latency USB Bluetooth adapter. BT latency is still too much.

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