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I personally don’t understand the whole thing of a fictional character in a video game where there is absolutely no romance anywhere having a preference. I don’t care whether my character in a game like Borderlands is straight, gay, lesbian, or anything in between so long as I can pop the heads off my enemies.

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32 points

Because a lot of games have a story of some sort and traits can help flesh out a character?

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26 points

Okay, but then leave it ambiguous and let people think of the character whatever they want. It doesn’t matter if doomguy was gay, it matters that he slays

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12 points

And then of the characters significant other is important? Like they complained about Spimer-Man 2, despite the playable characters not even being gay. We know that because we know who they are after.

It Takes Two. Me and my boyfriend played it. Beautiful game. Loved it. Plan to wait a few years and play it with him again. It’s about a straight couple. I can’t imagine how that game would work if we didn’t know that. Like I guess we could keep stretching the argument to “Well they could be bi”, I guess. We don’t need to know that. But it kind of helps to know they’re married to know the story. Otherwise it’s gonna get weird with the kid involved.

We don’t have to try and out progressive everyone for everything. A story can have a romance and we can see the romance and we can know who they’re dating and we can know they’re sexuality. None of this is the issue.

Your example would make sense in Doom. Sure. I’ve literally never seen anyone ask for it in doom. It’s a terrible example because it’s not that kind of game.

But for many games where the story is actually a big part, and not for games like Doom where the story really doesn’t matter, it’s fine. We can still celebrate love in really any shape or form(thats not harmful). If a game wants to avoid it, thats also fine. Once again, not arguing every game needs it. But if that’s the story, that’s the story, and it seems pointless to be angry that you know who a character is dating.

The movement for queer acceptance isn’t for people to be hush hush and for us to make the closet bigger to invite straight people in. It’s to get people out.

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There’s 2 problems with that

LGBT people deserve explicit representation as much as cishet people do, and cishet representation is all over media

Even if there’s a LGBT coded character people will fight to death to say that they’re actually very straight and that the degenerates are attacking them personally

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4 points

Couldn’t he slay more fabulously though, if he was gay?

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That’s an interesting one because I actually always headcannon doom guy as gay ever since I was a kid and it was just being silly, always pictured him as a badass marine that loves sucking cock and he’s fighting his way to hell because his bf died and was sent there.

Duke Nukem on the other hand was explicitly hetro which is fun, I would have also enjoyed in a different game a character like the duke who was aggressively homosexual or even better a good representation of a ego obsessed badass power bottom that has all sorts of fun quips like ‘I’m here to suck cock and kick ass, and I already drained everyone’s balls…’ it would be silly, fun, and we could have lots of shots of his toned butt and stuff… But no, thirty years later and people are still scared of fun. Sad.

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Don’t call them gamers, that gives them credence and insults actual gamers. Call them what they are: insecure babies. There are many, many insecure babies with the exact same opinion that do not play games. They are worse than the gamer bros, because they’re out harassing people face to face.

The problem isn’t games or gamers or gamer culture. It’s ignorant bigots. (yes, I know it’s still fun to make fun of gamergate crap, that’s why I still upvoted the joke)

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The meme is drawing a difference between lowercase g gamers, who are normal people who play video games, and capital G Gamers™, who are insecure manchildren who tend to make up a vocal majority among gaming communities. If you disagree, spend some time in a CoD lobby, or on /v/, or in real life with men who spend their time playing video games. There are a lot more Azs than you think.

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I really don’t see it much and I’ve been online gaming since the 90s. I think drawing attention to it like this meme creates more problems than it fixes.

Just ignore any trolls you come across. Don’t engage. The silence is more painful to the bigots than whatever logic or empathy you try to throw at them.

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Same here. It’s most definitely gotten much better nowadays. There has definitely been a culture shift to where those kind of people stick to their own private discord calls now. The fact that almost every game has a report button for that kind of behavior has definitely helped.

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“… or in real life around men who play video games.”

Yea, that’s me and all my friends, and we’re not toxic bigots. Thank you for proving that this spreads prejudice and not awareness.

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I shouldn’t have generalized it. Some groups are actually good. Many, many groups are not.

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3 points

Gamers™ and gamers are different things

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No real scotsman!

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43 points

Not that I don’t deny it, but are these things people think/care about? It’s a video game, I can be anything depending on the game I am playing. I don’t get mad or wonder why I have to play as a woman in some, hell I was perfectly fine playing last of us 2 which was a woman and gay. I can be a spirit or an alien and that’s why games are so great.

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There are definitely people who think about this. I bet this guy would. For context, this poor man can’t get immersed into Starfield because it asks him for his character’s pronouns. =(

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Picking pronouns is like picking height/weight/any other customization, just how you want to be seen or what text to put in the lines NPCs say to your character.

What an idiot.

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I lived in the UK and that guy really comes out as a complete wanker, in so many ways.

It’s an option for fks sake, it gives possibilities without forcing any choice or taking anything away.

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I spent 50 hours in starfield and honestly I don’t even remember the gender selector. I’m pretty sure it’s just a little toggle in the character creator that switches from fella to lady to neither, which… Isn’t that exactly the immersion this little guy wants? People referring to him as a him instead of a them? It’s not exactly staring you in the face throughout the entire game. Makes me sad to think this rant probably got famous because this kid has people who value his opinion.

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4 points

Wait, so does he want the game to force all players to be non binary? I’m not watching that video and giving him views.

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10 points

The video is of a grown man losing his mind over an option that is not mandatory to set. It’s there, but it doesn’t pop up and you are not required to choose anything.

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That reminds me of people saying that The Sims 4 has “gone woke” when introducing romantic preferences a few years ago.

That was completely stupid on so many aspects (including the fact that this meant that Sims used to be pan, so they were complaining about the possibility to make a straight character?)

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I grew up with plenty, I still know a few through mutual friends. Every opportunity to complain about how “woke” games are these days is taken. If an lgbtq+ character is in any way involved, they immediately change any reviews to 1 star, start massively shittalking the game, and continue to play it while bitching to everyone and anyone about it the whole time, and for weeks after they finish.

In games that let me choose, I play a woman most of the time. Been mocked for it. Cool Bro, you play your way I play mine. Only I don’t spend my time thinking of ways to try and make you feel bad for it.

When you can play as a mining ship captain in the year 3300 , a green plumber turned Ghost-buster in a world with kidnapping turtles , and a dinosaur all on the same day, like you said, who gives a fuck

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Are most video games protagonists straight? Cuz I have played way more games where the protagonist is mute and doesn’t show sexual interest in anything at all.

Like… Is Gordon Freeman straight? Doom guy? Kirby? Capt. Olimar? Red? The Prince of All Cosmos? 🤔

I’d say that video games have the most asexual representation of all forms of media.

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10 points

Kirby sucks like a nanny goat.

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10 points

That statement has more to unpack than a therapist’s office in Trump tower

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4 points

The prince of all cosmos will fuck anyone who wishes to fuck him.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

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26 points

Me when I’m forced to play as a bishop even though I’m clearly a rook.

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7 points

Why be a king when you could be a queen.

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