Don’t call them gamers, that gives them credence and insults actual gamers. Call them what they are: insecure babies. There are many, many insecure babies with the exact same opinion that do not play games. They are worse than the gamer bros, because they’re out harassing people face to face.
The problem isn’t games or gamers or gamer culture. It’s ignorant bigots. (yes, I know it’s still fun to make fun of gamergate crap, that’s why I still upvoted the joke)
The meme is drawing a difference between lowercase g gamers, who are normal people who play video games, and capital G Gamers™, who are insecure manchildren who tend to make up a vocal majority among gaming communities. If you disagree, spend some time in a CoD lobby, or on /v/, or in real life with men who spend their time playing video games. There are a lot more Azs than you think.
“… or in real life around men who play video games.”
Yea, that’s me and all my friends, and we’re not toxic bigots. Thank you for proving that this spreads prejudice and not awareness.
I really don’t see it much and I’ve been online gaming since the 90s. I think drawing attention to it like this meme creates more problems than it fixes.
Just ignore any trolls you come across. Don’t engage. The silence is more painful to the bigots than whatever logic or empathy you try to throw at them.
Same here. It’s most definitely gotten much better nowadays. There has definitely been a culture shift to where those kind of people stick to their own private discord calls now. The fact that almost every game has a report button for that kind of behavior has definitely helped.
I don’t see an issue, if 99% of the people are straight, and the goal of your character is to put the players in their shoes, then making them straight (if sexuality is in the game for whatever reason) is the right choice. Btw I’m not straight
God forbid any game doesn’t cater exclusively to the greatest size group. Why not have representation in games proportional to the real life people that play them? If all you care about is plurality, then every character should be straight, Han Chinese men. We should cater to the maximum amount of people, right?
I would disagree.
Make that maximum amount of buyers.
It’s not party catering. Or art. It’s a money business that has to create games that sell, so that the developer can get paid. That is the main goal. If there is room for a message, without alienating buyers, that’s also an option.
Anyhow, we have robots, those sell. We have aliens, they sell. We have unidentified that sells. There’s elves and orcs, which sell. Bunnies and hedgehogs. Various made-up things. Tons more. They all sell copies. Find a way to make it profitable, and it will happen. It’s not about representation. And it never will be. Unless it makes enough money to make more after that.
It’s clearly not about diversity. Capitalism isn’t about demographics and equal representations.
That lies in demand. Create actual demand, and game developers will follow. They always do.
I’ve just played doom and liked it. Now I’m in an identity crisis.
It never really matters in any case. What gives.
As a straight guy, I think I can relate better to a gay woman in an RPG than a straight woman. Romancing men is something that knocks me out of the thing still, more than anything else about playing a woman.
That said, about most games IDGAF. It’s not like straight men would not play Tomb Raider because the main protagonist is a woman. And even some RPGs, if the female voice actor is better, or the story makes better sense with a female lead, then that’s that.
Your numbers are off. The proportion of straight people is closer to 90% in western countries, and this is likely an overestimate as other sexual orientations are still stigmatized in most countries (source).
Sounds like a pity contest.
Its more so none of us complain that we play straight characters. Because it’s not a big deal. We get straight people exist. We don’t hate straight characters. So if we can do it and be perfectly fine and not feel like it’s being shoved down our throats, then why can’t straight people play gay characters? Yall get the vast majority. Just play this one with a gay character.
Or don’t. Theres thousands of games that come our every year. So much that I could make a list of games that have come out in the last 2-3 years I was excited for, never got around to, and will probably never play, because as an adult I just don’t have the time to play all the games I want to.
We have so many, that if yall stopped focusing on the one few with gay characters, you can find plenty of others to enjoy. Why bitch and moan once we get a game with gay characters?
Half the time it’s not even main characters. I remember seeing YouTubets throwing a fit because one side mission has you help a male high-school student ask another boy out to prom. Completely optional. Easily skip able. You do the mission, and them move on. And that was too much. It’s not even when we have a main character. It’s when we exist.
Boulders Gate 3. The option for a queer character is there. The option is too much.
Boulders Gate 3. The option for a queer character is there. The option is too much.
Could you elaborate? I only ask because i havent installed the game yet and dont understand what you mean and would like to know how it will affect game play. What does too much mean here?
Much appreciation if you do answer but thanks anyway for saying something if you dont want to.
No problem. Basically I also saw posts about how BG3 was also “woke”, not just because you can play as a woman, but also because you can romance anyone(or at least the main NPCs). So you can be straight, gay, lesbian, or even romance multiple people and be bi. It’s all an option and you’re not forced to romance anyone if you don’t want to. But just the option being there was enough to get people to throw a fit. Even though having plenty of options is kind of the point of the game.
This game takes it a step further during character customization than most do. You get to choose body type (as in feminine vs masculine, though they don’t call it that), voice, genitals, and gender (pronouns). And none of these things are tied to any of the others. They can all be mixed and matched however you see fit.
The only way these affect gameplay is just how people refer to your character in dialogue, and what your character model looks like in the cut scenes.
How about just playing the story as intended. Not everything has to be individualized.
B.bbbb-but if I see it then I might catch The Gay! We all know that the moment you see or hear anything even remotely related to lgbtq+, you checks flash cards immediately burst into dance while singing Queen and waving a pride flag.
I play a woman named Vala (Mal Doran) or Adria in 99% of the games that let me customize. Because every other game I’ve played is always a generic male character doing generic action things.
“I’ve seen that movie played that game before” - Jordan Peele, if he were a gamer.
