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how do you not invite the other side to your peace talks? what are they gonna do? Cry about how hard they lost?

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Recent pics of Zelensky suggest that he is indeed doing a lot of crying lately.

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1 point

that car shot is going on my wall fucking lmao

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3 points

😄

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It was soon revealed that Russia wouldn’t be invited to this conference

What do they hope to accomplish?

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6 points

Wst is peace.

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Zelensky tells press conference: Our teams start from tomorrow on plans to hold a global peace conference in Switzerland

It is critical that work continues on methods used by Russia to bypass sanctions

We would want countries of the global south to be present at peace conference

We are open to all countries that respect our sovereignty and territorial integrity at peace summit

We would want China to be involved in our peace formula

Apparently they are trying to beg global south including China to 180 their position for no reason and become fellow compradors to USA.

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23 points

It almost made a certain kind of sense when they thought their offensive would succeed. Like they’d brow beat Russia and then demand surrender on their terms, and countries supporting Russia would have no choice but to go along. However, now that their army is being crushed and western support is collapsing, this is just a complete farce.

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15 June 2023

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ugh, didn’t check the date on the TASS link. There is apparently a new proposal, but the only western source I could find is the daily mail which I didn’t want to link to https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12965767/President-Zelensky-asks-Switzerland-organise-high-level-peace-conference.html

edit: ok, looks like there’s one from forex now https://www.forexlive.com/news/ukraine-has-asked-switzerland-to-organize-a-high-level-peace-conference-20240115/

although, it looks like it’s a farce after all as they’re evidently not inviting Russia

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16 points

That makes sense. This happens when I share slightly broken Invidious links or bad copies of songs while listening to downloaded music

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21 points

America spent how much to lose this war? lmao

Israel next pls

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11 points

We made a bunch of money selling weapons that were about to expire and then made a clean exotic and left that idiot holding the bag.

Pretty sure every foreign policy ghoul considers this war a huge success.

And besides liberals are just going to react to anybody saying ukraine lost like chuds react to Vietnam and make up excuses for why we weren’t allowed to win.

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The billions of dollars spent in Ukraine by the Federal Government are “recycled” back to the politicians and private corporations in America. The banks, institutional investors, oil and gas companies, military industrial complex all made a huge tons of money from the government spending there. Same with the billions of dollars spent in Israel.

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28 points

If Russia isn’t there, I don’t see the point.

I suppose they could be checking with their owners if they would be allowed to surrender/negotiate with Russia. In which case the answer is probably no.

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11 points

Yeah, I think it’s mostly a vibe check for the owners.

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2 points

Bro should’ve held it before the Israeli genocide. Now the west and Ukraine have burnt bridges with the Islamic world, already pissed China off and are demonising India and south Africa. He’s probably going to get lectured by someone.

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3 points

I get the impression these people just live in an alternate reality.

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