In audio released Friday evening, senators and representatives from Ohio and Michigan revealed the “endgame” is to ban transgender care “for everyone.”
That’s only because they don’t think they can reintroduce chattel slavery. Their actual endgame, if they accomplish this, will be much, much worse.
It’s constantly a slippery f’n slope with these people, and they always want to keep on sliding down that slope.
The slippery slope implies that it’s some kind of accident.
They’re dragging us kicking and screaming into a ditch.
Slippery slope implies that allowing the change will mean sliding further and further in the same direction. Intent does not matter.
This is a slippery slope because every time they say something has a limited scope they just keep increasing the scope.
I’d say it’s more the dog that caught the car. They need trans people to exist so they can whip their base up into a panic over trans people existing. Total victory, then, means they need to move on to a new target to hate. It’s hate in and of itself that matters to them, hate is more than a necessary evil, it’s the ultimate object of their desire.
We already have slavery and it’s working quite nicely. We just renamed them “illegal immigrants”.
I think people get hung up thinking slaves were cost-free to the slaveholders. Of course they weren’t! Just like any livestock, you gotta feed and shelter them, breed them, take care of the offspring until they become productive, etc.
The current slave system is brilliant! Pay 'em some change, so no one can call them slaves, and let them figure out all the items above. If anyone comes along and says maybe we should provide… STFU socialist! You trying to take MY money and give it to people breaking the law?!
It gets better! Now we can use fear of these people to get votes, keep in power. (Fuck it, I’m exhausted, you all know where I’m going with this.)
This is a stunningly ignorant take.
Being a modern so-called “wage slave” sucks, no doubt. But equating it to actual, literal slavery belittles what those people actually went through to a disgusting degree. No one today can whip you if they feel like it. No one today can separate you from your spouse and children, selling them to some random asshole two states over, never to be seen again. If you decided to try to make it on your own and move, no one can sue to have you brought back to your workplace in a cage. If you break your leg, no one can shoot you in the head like you’re a useless animal.
The closest thing to slaves we have today are convicts. There’s a whole different discussion to be had there about how immoral it is to use prison as a punishment instead of rehabilitation, allowing a court to take away someone’s rights, exploiting time behind bars for labor, the incentive that provides for pronouncing people guilty, and removing felons’ rights to vote. But poor wage workers are NOT slaves.
Not sure if you’re ignorant to reality or what. Your comparison falls flat and looks childish because the US still has actual slaves. Not metaphorically, not hyperbolically, but actual, literal slaves.
The 13th amendment banned slavery EXCEPT as punishment for a crime. And hoo-boy has the US taken that to heart. One of the reasons we have more of our population imprisoned than any other country is we use prisoners as slave labor. Actual, literal, slave labor.
A year or so back I heard a trans activist on a podcast saying that the “protect kids” rhetoric was bullshit and all the bans on providing gender affirming care to trans kids was a foot in the door to ban it for all trans people.
Now we just need the leaked audio of republicans talking about banning birth control for the awfulness hat trick.
Politicians saying “Protecting the kids” is usually a trigger phrase for some bullshit
What the kids really need to be protected from is these hateful motherfuckers. We need to put the lot of them in a rocket and fire it into the next sun over. Not our sun, that’s still too close to home.
To the Sun I say. Better to burn them up immediately than risk them being brought back to life by some future technology after being retrieved half way past Pluto.
Stopping ADULTS from receiving Life Saving Healthcare is EXACTLY how we Save The Children!
You’re joking, but they literally believe that.
They believe all trans folk are pedophile groomers that are brainwashing children into becoming trans by sneaking into bathrooms and school sports teams, so they want to kill us to Save The Children.
Meanwhile… actual pedos are running rampant and just walking into the front door of locker rooms…
Jim Jordan, I’m looking at you.
Jordan was not the one accused of abusing kids. He’s accused of not doing anything to stop someone else from doing it.
Which is why the GOP is aggressively pursuing all those pedophile priests!
Lol. J/k they don’t care about that
Children? Fuck Children!
Yeah, part of the problem is that a significant portion of conservative leaders take that sentence way too literal, in every single way.
Even the usage of the term “endgame” implies an almost sportsman like perspective on the legal battle for transgender rights, devoid of any acknowledgment that transgender people have humanity and that their actions will have dire consequences for real people. A literal battle plan for how to dispose of us. No vague language, no hand waving away accusations of genocidal intent. Point blank, openly asking, “How do we get rid of trans people for good?”
They refuse to acknowledge that trans people, that any trans person, benefits from acceptance and support and freedom to be themselves. In their ideal world, first they’ll deny our healthcare, deny our legal rights and protections from violence and discrimination, they’ll replace mental health care facilities with religious conversion therapy camps, and when all is said and done and trans people continue to exist in any shape or form they’ll resort to incarceration and disposal. They’ll make laws enforcing dress codes based on assigned gender and make it illegal to change your name to one not approved for your assigned sex. This is what they’ve been saying they want for years. If they could do this, they would without a second thought.
We’re the basis of the entirety of the post pandemic Christian conservatism movement. None of these people would even have jobs without us to scream about during the two minutes hate.
The Nazis started with Transexuals and Homosexuals. The Jewish people just outnumbered the Transexuals and Homosexuals by several factors.
Oh, and the homeless were the third group, again outnumbered by a couple factors by Jewish people.
Important why the reference is valid as well, is that endgame is rhetorically near ‘Endlösung’ (ultimate solution) and ‘Endsieg’ (ultimate victory), meaning complete genocide as ‘solution’ to ‘the problem of the jews (existence)’ ( ‘Judenfrage’ ) and world domination as solution to the growing extremes of the Second World War.
Please don’t use ‘Endlösung’, ‘Endsieg’ and ‘Judenfrage’ in casual speech.
Americans don’t like talking about how Nazis came to power. We literally remove the first line from Martin Niemöller’s “First they came for” quote from school textbooks because it sympathizes with Socialism.
Neither they like to talk how a lot of Nazi discourse was based on American eugenics and the logistics of the holocaust were templated and inspired by the American genocide of Native American Indigenous people. In particular the use of concentration camps. Which the Americans copied and perfected during WW2 to imprison Japanese-American citizens.
Even the usage of the term “endgame” implies an almost sportsman like perspective on the legal battle for transgender rights
It could be a movie reference tho. You know that movie where someone with all the power snapped his fingers and a bunch of people just disappeared?
At any rate it’s never good to hear about fascists discussing plans that have an endgame.
Imagine being so insistent on targeting what amounts to 1% of the population.
This shows how little they care about governing and how much they care about pushing their agenda.
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
-Francis Wilhoit
They are exercising the out group to appease their base, nothing more. When they can’t target trans people anymore, they will move on to someone else.
Conservatism has no generally accepted definition, try googling it and see how many different answers come up. It’s not a political ideology, they can’t make up their own minds on what it is. It’s what you need it to be, then and there, it seems. Like if you had a party of self-serving lawyers run amok.
This is a red herring lie to induce fear in homophobic followers. It is little different from the lies to that crime is rising, and that black/Latino/immigrant/Antifa crime is skyrocketing. Do not take my word for it. Look at actual crime statistics. Republicans are both being lied to, and spreading those same lies.
The common thread is Republicans are dividing our country by promoting fear, distrust, and rage through their lies.
That’s basically the game, ruin everything, and blame whichever minority it’s cool to hate this month for the ruin
That’s a rounding up by a pretty big margin. I am in one of the most trans friendly cities on the planet and we’re sitting at 0.4% of our population being trans.
A lot of the rhetoric tends to fall on the “we shouldn’t have to change our behaviour because it’s such a small number!” but then we are also supposed to be this society wide menace that is “socially contagious”…
We are prime scapegoats because you require extra empathy to understand the basics of what being trans is actually like compared to being cis and conservatives generally rate pretty low on empathy. They don’t care that they are condemning us to permanent misery, they can’t conceptualize that misery anyway.
I think one can be bigoted AF against gay and trans people and still defend their rights, I mean I think a lot of people are shit, doesn’t mean I want them imprisoned for it, I just don’t hang out with them. End of problem. Because you don’t go knocking at their doors asking them to be gay, right? These fuckers go door to door asking me to vote to end gay, and that is more annoying than I ever found a gay person. Fuck that, you be you and I be me, you stay there I stay here everyone happy, bigots and gays together, not divided.
This feels like it’s intended to be a positive message… I think? I have certainly never knocked on anybody’s door and asked them to be trans. I think a lot of people assume that we are trying to force people to use our pronouns and be nice to us… But if it’s on my own time why would I hang around people that call me things that make me feel like crap?
It’s crazy though how upset people will get when you tell them you don’t like them very much. Bigots want to be “respected” but most of the time it just seems to mean “above judgement for behaviour.”
He doesn’t actually mean everyone. He’d have no problem with his mistress getting breast implants.
That’s not “trans care”. I bet he’d have issues if his mistress wanted to transition to male.
1/100 is trans? No way. It’s got to be more like 1/1000 or even less. If you say I is 1% is lgbtq I would agree. But trans specifically? Nah.
~7% identifies as LGBT in USA, 0,5-1,6% identify as trans according to wikipedia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_demographics_of_the_United_States#p-lang
It shocks me that people think there are so few gay and trans people. People are afraid to tell the truth because of these kind of politicians, you’re almost guaranteed to have a gay person in your family somewhere, whether they’re out or not
Yeah what even IS their stance on infrastructure? Just let it burn, or what? Because I’m very heavily invested in that, but all I get is that they are going to remove the gays or something. In twenty five years of truck driving I have never once run over a gay person, that is simply not an issue for me in my day to day dealings, I want to know what the fuck about the roads?
