In audio released Friday evening, senators and representatives from Ohio and Michigan revealed the “endgame” is to ban transgender care “for everyone.”

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Which means it’ll be banned in red states.

Occasionally Democrats from blue states will do what they’ve done with abortion and cannabis legalization and the minimum wage: They’ll look at the victims of Republican policy in red states and say they deserve it. Say their suffering is a good thing because they committed the heinous sin of being outnumbered.

But what Democrats won’t do is try to protect the human rights of vulnerable minorities on the national level. That would require getting rid of the filibuster.

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And when the filibuster is needed to stop that really heinous shit the republicans want to do?!

Every damn time… “get rid of the filibuster!” As regular as Texas wanting to secede whenever some weak-ass republican needs to pump up his base.

Also, the “dems are just as bad” is tired tripe, and I don’t know what kind of dems you hang around, but I’ve not heard any that think those victimized by republican policies “deserve it”. Bugger off with that “both sides” bs.

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And when the filibuster is needed to stop that really heinous shit the republicans want to do?!

The filibuster is currently enabling the heinous shit republicans want to do. Every state law that fucks over marginalized groups is there because Democrats consider their rights less important than the Jim Crow Filibuster.

I don’t know what kind of dems you hang around, but I’ve not heard any that think those victimized by republican policies “deserve it”.

Then you’ve been paying no attention at all whatsoever. Or you know better and are lying.

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Wait, you are implying that this is the democrats fault? For something thr republicans do?

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it must be nice having a party that just always manages to force through all the shit you want no matter the odds

it’s so awesome that we still haven’t fixed roe. like, ridiculous that that night the president didn’t write something saying ‘actually it’s legal everywhere executive order fuck you’. i don’t care if that’s not how it works!! he’s the president!! that’s how 40% of people think it works anyway!!

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He did to some extent. The states ignored him because that’s how it actually works.

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Yeah I fully expect this to become normal for red states.

Probably gonna kill myself lol

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Our people have endured worse. They destroy our homes and livelihoods and push us to crime and professions of desperation. And yet we persist. From the Molly houses to the prostitute priestesses we have endured throughout history. And no law will stand between us and ourselves.

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same, no lol tho.

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If I could hug you over the internet I would. Unfortunately that’s of exactly no help.

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We would welcome you here in Washington.

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If I manage to pay off my trailer before they issue my death sentence I’ll try to move, but if I run out of time I’m not going to try and thread that needle. I’ll just make sure it counts.

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don’t let them fucking win, you stay here and you fight godsdamnit

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That’s what they want. Live your life to the fullest just to spite these motherfuckers.

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I think it might just be time to move bud. You’re in an escapesble situation. You don’t HAVE to stay and listen to their bullshit. You’re much much better than they are. Keep positive thoughts and you WILL get through it!

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I’m still paying off my trailer, I can’t just move without destroying my life anyway. My resume is unimpressive, I’m going into my mid 30s, I’d just be condemning myself to a life in homeless poverty.

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I hope things don’t get bad enough for you to feel like that’s the only option.

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Probably gonna kill myself lol

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: never kill yourself for something that’s somebody else’s fault.

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Show depression that if it wants you dead it has to start shutting down your major organs like a REAL disease instead of hiding in your brain!

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Michigan isn’t red. And don’t fucking kill yourself. I’m an old cis white dude, and if I can help fight for your rights, the least you can do is stick around to enjoy them, right?

I’m terrible at pep talks but just don’t fucking kill yourself. There is beauty in the world you have yet to experience, and you make the world a more wondrous and beautiful place just by existing.

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I’m in Iowa and that’s a red state these days. If they want to kill me I won’t go quietly, but I’d definitely rather die than detransition.

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There are other options. They might involve not staying in Iowa, but hell suicide means leaving Iowa, too, so you might as well try another state.

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Come hang out in Illinois. We’ll leave you alone.

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That’s only because they don’t think they can reintroduce chattel slavery. Their actual endgame, if they accomplish this, will be much, much worse.

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We already have slavery and it’s working quite nicely. We just renamed them “illegal immigrants”.

I think people get hung up thinking slaves were cost-free to the slaveholders. Of course they weren’t! Just like any livestock, you gotta feed and shelter them, breed them, take care of the offspring until they become productive, etc.

The current slave system is brilliant! Pay 'em some change, so no one can call them slaves, and let them figure out all the items above. If anyone comes along and says maybe we should provide… STFU socialist! You trying to take MY money and give it to people breaking the law?!

It gets better! Now we can use fear of these people to get votes, keep in power. (Fuck it, I’m exhausted, you all know where I’m going with this.)

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Did you really just compare immigrant labor to chattel slavery?

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Did I really just fart and shit myself a little, dare I say a fair bit? No, that was two days ago, but it’s becoming more frequent.

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No. This is a bad take. Even though wage slavery bucks, no illegal immigrant is their employer’s property. You already have slavery in the US and it’s all the convicts being leased to companies: 13th Amendment, babies!

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Not sure if you’re ignorant to reality or what. Your comparison falls flat and looks childish because the US still has actual slaves. Not metaphorically, not hyperbolically, but actual, literal slaves.

The 13th amendment banned slavery EXCEPT as punishment for a crime. And hoo-boy has the US taken that to heart. One of the reasons we have more of our population imprisoned than any other country is we use prisoners as slave labor. Actual, literal, slave labor.

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This is a stunningly ignorant take.

Being a modern so-called “wage slave” sucks, no doubt. But equating it to actual, literal slavery belittles what those people actually went through to a disgusting degree. No one today can whip you if they feel like it. No one today can separate you from your spouse and children, selling them to some random asshole two states over, never to be seen again. If you decided to try to make it on your own and move, no one can sue to have you brought back to your workplace in a cage. If you break your leg, no one can shoot you in the head like you’re a useless animal.

The closest thing to slaves we have today are convicts. There’s a whole different discussion to be had there about how immoral it is to use prison as a punishment instead of rehabilitation, allowing a court to take away someone’s rights, exploiting time behind bars for labor, the incentive that provides for pronouncing people guilty, and removing felons’ rights to vote. But poor wage workers are NOT slaves.

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It’s constantly a slippery f’n slope with these people, and they always want to keep on sliding down that slope.

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The slippery slope implies that it’s some kind of accident.

They’re dragging us kicking and screaming into a ditch.

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Slippery slope implies that allowing the change will mean sliding further and further in the same direction. Intent does not matter.

This is a slippery slope because every time they say something has a limited scope they just keep increasing the scope.

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I’d say it’s more the dog that caught the car. They need trans people to exist so they can whip their base up into a panic over trans people existing. Total victory, then, means they need to move on to a new target to hate. It’s hate in and of itself that matters to them, hate is more than a necessary evil, it’s the ultimate object of their desire.

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Exactly. If they had nobody else to hate, they would eventually turn on themselves. They would get to a point where nobody would trust anyone,

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They’re just putting on their ski’s.

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Another common Republican accusation that ends up being an admission.

It’s not really a slippery slope issue if they’re throwing themselves down to the bottom on purpose though…

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Everyone knows what their end game really is.

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Yeah, it was caught on audio pretty clearly lol. These people things are fucking horrendous.

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Yeah, I don’t think Timothée Chalamet would agree with your bigoted opinion.

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I grew up with a trans girl who is now 38 years old.

Trans people existed before the internet. Their existence is not a fad.

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