TikTok sounds go silent as songs disappear from app::Videos across the platform have lost their audio in dramatic dispute

128 points

Imagine actually using TikTok. Life is too short to spend your time on that shit.

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39 points

Why must people yuck other people’s yum?

I used to watch Tiktok a lot. It’s the primary way I heard and learned about left side politics. It has it’s uses.

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33 points

Yeah I genuinely see no difference between tiktok and other social media. Everyone on reddit/lemmy loves to hate on tiktok I never really got why. If it’s because of data collection they’re doing nothing any different than Facebook, insta, etc. Now X, that’s another story lol.

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I think Western people just have a bias where it’s fine if their own country does it, but when their boogeyman China is doing the same exact thing, it’s all of the sudden scary and bad.

I, personally, think TikTok is not great for people or society, but I have the same exact feelings about Facebook, Instagram, and all of the major Western run social media stuff. TikTok is by no means any worse than them. For that reason, Lemmy is the only social media account I have at this point, but I dont judge anyone for using any of them. The majority of the people criticizing TikTok are hypocritical, for sure.

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11 points

I don’t use TikTok, but this comment has it backwards. Life is too short to deny yourself fun for some kind of perceived superiority.

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-1 points

Strongly disagree. Life is too short to spend your life on a toxic platform that rots your brain out

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That kinda sounds just like a boomer opinion about anything on the internet.

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2 points

All social media platforms are toxic platforms that rot your brain out, including this one. TikTok is not uniquely terrible, like every other platform, you have to curate a quality feed. My feed has a lot of language learning, history, and fiber arts. I prefer long form content, but sometimes I learn about California redwoods while praying on the porcelain throne.

I have concerns with children being on TikTok, but before it was TikTok it was iPad kids watching Elsa and Spider-Man pregnancy videos on YouTube. The problem is parental supervision.

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37 points

Lemmy is not better if your concerned about using your time wisely

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27 points

True, but lemmy content is less click baity and less refreshed in general which makes me use it less, and I actually love that.

I don’t want more content!

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10 points

It’s better because it includes the friction of clicking through instead of being force fed videos one after the other.

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13 points

I dunno. It’s full of articles, I’m reading news constantly, I’m discussing social topics with—now that I think I about it, surprisingly level headed people sharing interesting opinions….i learn a lot here. Sure, I also get shown really stupid shit. But I spend the majority of my time reading stuff. And looking up other stuff when I discuss things. So I’d disagree. Respectfully. My good friend.

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24 points

That’s impressive. What got her to dump it?

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7 points

I watch a tiktok maybe once a day. The algorithm is mostly cooking and science for me. It’s highly enjoyable content if you get past the noise and obviously don’t overuse it. That can be said for any social media app, including lemmy.

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Time enjoyed is not wasted.

Of course, Tik Tok isn’t my jam, so it would be a waste of time for me.

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5 points

Let’s not suggest that addiction to social media somehow counts as time enjoyed

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7 points

“if you don’t enjoy the things I enjoy, it’s not real enjoyment”

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4 points

Everyone isn’t addicted to social media, it’s about learning to set clear boundaries. My wife has IG and a few times a week we’ll watch reels on her phone before bed. We have a few laughs together and spend ten minutes on it tops. I consider it quality time and actually look forward to it.

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16 points

Just imagine how much more stupid all the TickThots will look making those stupid dance moves without any music

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-10 points

Still more athletic than you

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4 points

Like you need music to watch that… I’ve heard [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅]

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9 points

I love when people edit real sounds over dance videos. Grunts, shoe squeaks, clothes rustling.

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5 points

Universal Music Group has put their own greed above the interests of their artists and songwriters.

They want to be paid?! What is this.

… that serves as a free promotional and discovery vehicle for their talent.

Yeah, cause artists (well, people in general) love getting paid in exposure.

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10 points

Exposure is great until you try to pay for your groceries with exposure. The manager of my local ACME hasn’t been very receptive.

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Try a drawing of a spider…

The reference.

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1 point

Reads like a Ted L. Nancy letter

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I know it’s become a meme, but exposure is a real tangible thing. If I get a clip of my song onto millions of people’s phone screens and I don’t pay for it, it’s basically thousands (if not tens of thousands) of dollars of free advertising.

Just because some asshole on Facebook marketplace is begging for free commissions doesn’t invalidate the benefits you can gain from exposure in general.

Having said all that, we are talking about Universal not some indie folk band. The same thing Tiktok is doing to Universal (paying a very small %) is exactly what Universal does to artists. I have very little empathy for either Tiktok or Universal.

On the topic, I actually support Tiktok more in the sense that independent artists now have the means to go viral much more easily on a platform which inevitably leads to organic growth + success. Universal is a behemoth from an era that hasn’t fully died.

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3 points

This could be a good move for everyone. It said TikTok has agreements with everyone else so many other artists will have the chance to get noticed now. The Universal artists are already well known and don’t really need more promotion anyways. This gives the smaller people a chance. Aight I’m off to learn an instrument, write a song, create a record label, and sign up for TikTok exposure. Wish me luck…how hard could it be.

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1 point

I mean the song needs to be catchy and writing a good hook is half the battle of making known music.

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13 points

Let me just say that I learned more useful and interesting things than I ever did on any other social media platform to date. I also haven’t had a Facebook insta or any of that ilk since 2015. Reddit, then TikTok, then here at Lemmy is all I’ve had since then.

I found lots of videos giving me awesome facts about animals I never learned in school or elsewhere! (A opossum is naturally immune to rabies and is actually good for your wildlife area!)

I learned multiple ways to make things easier on myself, some being: car maintenance, cleaning, cooking, grocery shopping, acceptance of others and of myself, and laws and politics (that they then give you multiple sources for or show you the website or place they got their info) just to name a few!

While I still get videos that I find funny, most of them have been actually beneficial to me which I couldn’t believe I had been hating on TikTok for so long because I thought it was just dumbass pranks or mindless drivel like “satisfying” videos or whatever.

I’m not saying use it, because I haven’t in a few weeks, but it can actually give you really good and quality content.

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Before I would get any itch to join the TikTok trend back when it started, I heard that the Chinese Communist Party was collecting some worrying amount of information on their user base, has been suppressing and/or blocking content that raised voice about the uyghur situation and did various nasty things. So I thought I would stay away from that until the situation improves. I have never heard a fraction of information about that happening. Did everyone just suddenly stop caring about how disgustingly TikTok treats privacy and user data (and how they suppress voices they don’t like), or did I just simply miss the bit where they stopped doing all those things?

Because that’s one of the many reasons I haven’t touched it with a stick.

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Every social media site does the exact same thing. There was just an article on here the other day about the US government buying people’s information from data brokers. How is that any different? Meta has been censoring anything pro-Palestine, Twitter is a breeding ground for Nazis, YouTube picks and chooses what counts as “mature content” aka what gets monetized. The way TikTok treats privacy is how every social media platform treats it, it has nothing to do with them being Chinese.

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Every social media site does the exact same thing

I sure hope Blåhaj Lemmy isn’t doing any of that crap.

the US government buying people’s information from data brokers. How is that any different?

Um, isn’t that obvious? The US government accesses information collected by private companies. The Chinese government controls a source of news that is used by billions of people. Those are totally different things.

Sure, TikTok insists they have no ties to the government. But there’s plenty of evidence exposing that as a blatant lie.

Not sure what Meta/Twitter/YouTube have to do with this. Bringing them up is at best a distraction. If you don’t trust them (I don’t, for the record) don’t use those platforms. Simple.

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I don’t use TikTok, but a lot of the concern is just overblown China bad stuff (CCP does suck, but that doesn’t mean you have to be reactionary about everything Chinese).

There is no direct evidence that the CCP has some back door to grab user data, or that it’s directing suppression of content. It’s just not a real thing. The fear mongering has been about what the CCP could force ByteDance to do, given their power over Chinese firms. ByteDance itself has been trying to reassure everyone that that wouldn’t happen, including by storing US user data on US servers out of reach of the CCP (theoretically anyway).

You stopped hearing about this because that’s politics, new shinier things popped up to get people angry about. North Dakota or whatever tried banning TikTok and got slapped down on first amendment grounds. Politicians lost interest, and so did the media.

Now that’s not to say TikTok is great about privacy or anything. It’s just that they are the same amount of evil as every other social media company and tech company making money from ads.

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It’s literally just racism. People act like other social media platforms aren’t just as bad about privacy because they sell your information instead of giving it directly to the government.

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19 points

The vast majority of people don’t actually care about any of the issues you raised. They care more about fitting in with their friends and engineered dopamine hits.

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7 points

The vast majority of humans are useless fucks that act as though they’re incapable of thinking beyond their own self interests, or even less. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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2 points

Well, considering I’m on iOS and gave it no access to anything, and I would never use it to upload anything to begin with, these issues do not pertain to me. I don’t link accounts on it, and the email is a burner email that iOS made for me to specifically use for that app.

I think a lot of these privacy concerns are more for people who actually want to use it for posting or making videos. Then I would be worried about all the data. I give them nothing, no real names or anything. So, I would say I’m okay. 👍

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Well, considering I’m on iOS and gave it no access to anything, and I would never use it to upload anything to begin with, these issues do not pertain to me. I don’t link accounts on it, and the email is a burner email that iOS made for me to specifically use for that app.

I think a lot of these privacy concerns are more for people who actually want to use it for posting or making videos. Then I would be worried about all the data. I give them nothing, no real names or anything. So, I would say I’m okay. 👍

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opossum is naturally immune to rabies

The CDC says they’re not, they just rarely have rabies: https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/rabies/pdf/vs-0612-wildlife-rabies-h.pdf

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5120391/

“In fact, rabies is extremely rare in opossums, perhaps because they have a much lower body temperature compared to other warm-blooded animals.”

They do have a natural immunity to rabies thanks to their body, but immunity does not always mean 100%. They have a lot lower risk of it, which means they are more immune than other animals.

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And you still see people on it. What else is there on tiktok aside from stupid dances

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I don’t even have tiktok, but I get sent clips of musicians all the time

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1 point

Funny skits, science info, almost real time information about congress stock trades and political corruption in the US.

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2 points

There’s a lot on it.

It’s not just girls in things standing in a hot tub flossing.

I don’t like the company, I don’t use the product. But it is what Facebook was in 2010.

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i used to think it was just the dances but then i started dating a girl last year who uses tiktok a lot and there’s actually a lot of interesting content on there. it’s like a different version of youtube. there’s an algorithm… you like cooking? lots of interesting cooking videos. there’s also some interesting political content, mostly leftist from what i gather.

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4 points

Over 1 billion monthly users, about 25% of the people that use the Internet. So quite a bit more than dances tbh

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It’s an algorithm based social media platform. There’s so much on there beside what you see from clips etc. Just like anything else.

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