that threads so full of cope lol
not one person can outright say ‘ukraine is losing’
I think reddit is full of CIA , human beings cannot be that dumb or yankees are dumber than global south ? XD
There are 100% bot farms working on reddit to boost pro-american foriegn policy narratives and to downvote counter-narratives
Yeah , one guy wrote Russian cannot lose and he was downvoted and attacked. Seems to me reddit is just full of CIA bots playing themselves. Where as when I watched BBC News YT comments about Putin… It was clearly pro Russia and critical of BBC for failed journalism.
The completely arbitrary “score hidden” thing is applied pretty unevenly and conveniently too
At this point I’m honestly starting to wonder if no education at all is actually better than the American education system.
It literally would be.
Think about how much of “American history” is “don’t believe your lying eyes”
“The Civil War wasn’t about slavery” (gee that’s weird since it was literally free states versus slave states)
“It’s ok we killed all the natives because God said all the land between the oceans was ours” (gee that sure is convenient for us)
“Government exists to amicably cooperate and figure out the way to do things that’s best for everybody” (why does literally everybody agree they’re getting fucked over then)
To be honest, my father taught me to never underestimate human stupidity.
As a Canadian, it’s a western thing in general (though the US is the most glaring example of it). An increasing number of people know better, and I do think reddit is full of CIA- but the honest truth also is that there’s also a sizable portion, or perhaps even a dominant majority (it becomes difficult to tell sometimes) who really believe all this shit.
Western chauvinism is a hell of a drug. Think about how white-worshipping, west-idealizing people are, then consider how bad those who are actually white and western and who buy into all of it just as badly or worse are- that’ll give you an idea. And it gets worse- a sizable amount of even the occasionally dissenting voices are still part of this mentality in varying degrees, since it crosses the partisan divide.
It doesn’t help that critisizing Ukraine gets you absolutely swamped iwth downvotes.
Will Russia have it in a few years?
Lmao, Avdeevka was a full on route, soldiers were abandonig their positions contrary to their orders. This could end in a few months, and at this rate could even be a few weeks (tho I doubt so but you never know)
This could end in a few months
And then begins the slow and tedious counter-terrorist phase. Look at the second Chechnya war and the subsequent events
I also guarantee NATO is preparing “stay-behind” operations GLADIO style right now. gotta fight to the last Ukrainian after all.
War for territory is the western idea of the war in Ukraine, but it is clearly and explicitly contradictory to what the russian government has stated as official goals and strategy. Small territorial gains? Yes, but the russian objective is “demilitarization” and the only way to demilitarize a state that is unwilling to do it is to destroy their army and their ability to fight. Even the 3rd assault brigade, what’s left of the infamous Azov Battalion, refused their orders to counter attack on the flanks of Avdeevka and there are reports and rumors that Zelensky might move /legally/politically against them. If even the most fanatical of their forces refuse to fight, then the rest of the army might stop following orders soon enough. That is a recipe for disaster in Ukraine, and at the least expected moment it all can get out of control for the government in Kiev. Not to mention that Zelensky’s term is about to end, and who knows what will happen after that, since the country is really in no position to hold elections.
I understand that they aren’t there to eat Ukraine, I’m more pointing out that this still seems to be a stalemate. I feel like if they take kharkiv or something that would be a more obvious sign of the war coming close to an end
the only way to demilitarize a state that is unwilling to do it is to destroy their army and their ability to fight
all the more reason for Russia to move aggressively to envelop and destroy elements of the UAF like those ‘routing’ from these front line positions—if this is still too dangerous for Russia, the UAF must not be in that bad of a spot
cope levels: “maybe a miracle will happen u never know”
Just to give an idea of how in touch with reality redidtors are with the realities of this war.
“Ukraine should siege Moscow” - 115 upvotes
They literally think it’s a marvel movie where the Good Guys *Tm have plot armor.
They do realize if WW3 does happen they will be drafted, right? Like, they’re frothing at the mouth for it but I don’t think they know they themselves will be fed into the war machine.
It’s always everyone else that will be affected. Never them. This is what individualism has done to them. They have no concept of being part of society. They are separated from it and the only way to get through to them that they are all part of the same society is to bash them in the head with it.
It’s just so hard to empathize with such a narrow point of view. These people are too old to lack such critical awareness that other human beings roam this earth with full lives and dreams. I just don’t get it. I don’t think I will ever understand redditors…
usians have this vision of a war that it is like going safari with the boys, going to some “shithole country” to shot some <third worlder racial slur>, crack open a cold one and have a bbq + manifest destiny that they are god’s unmatched army and they win easily and doesn’t cross their minds that war can happen in the home land, always on the attack.
It’s like being a monarchist who works in retail. They think they’ll be king when their revolution happens, completely oblivious to their predetermined role as serf.
In the early days of WWI soldiers were leaving for the front, cheering from festively decorated railway cars. They would go and win glory and prove their manhood at the battlefield and they would all be home by Christmas.
We are not a single bit smarter today.
I keep thinking things will be different. But after so many wars, truly nothing has changed. They’ll only begin to regret pushing for WW3 once they’re drafted, and even then I doubt it’ll really do much to sway their opinion. They probably won’t change until they see their buddies blown to bits in front of their eyes.
