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362 points

Wow it must be an extremely novel experience for an iOS programmer to have a company arbitrarily make decisions about what you can and cannot do on their platform

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122 points

Why kick 'em when they’re down already?

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[Edit: upon reflection, this post went too far. To any who saw it, I apologize.]

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40 points
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Apple bad

Wait hold on

People wanting to make software for widely used devices bad?

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Ok that WAS clever

To anyone who is curious what it said something to the effect of:

why not they seem to like the boot already

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81 points

I wish I could say that Google is better at that. It’s basically the same story but with even less humans to talk to when you’re flagged for doing something wrong or in the case of Google your former college roommate whom you haven’t seen in 10 years did something wrong. It’s the price all mobile devs pay unless they only want to distribute to a small subset of users who have liberated their phones.

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43 points

when I started with mobile apps google was easy and apple was a problem.

nowadays apple is very clear on what they allow and what they don’t and it’s possible to go back and forth with them to get something approved.

google is trying their hard to be as strict as apple while putting 0 of the effort in to correct problems. not to mention that android is a fucking piece of garbage to maintain. you have like 4 deadlines per year, you need to update this or that thing or your app won’t work on this or that device, or the deprecation deadline for fucking safetynet arrives and they take two weeks to repair the google play integrity service.

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tbh i think that safetynet and other attestation features are a waste of time and should die.

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1 point

there’s a story there that I want to read

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4 points

There was a time when at least once a month on that β€œother site”’s android channel that you would see a post about someone getting their account permanently banned. Sometimes it was because they made a spammy app while in high school or college but had turned over a new leaf and were using a new Google account. Sometimes it was a company who had employed someone who had been previously banned but only ever signed into the play console under a company email but probably also signed into their personal mail on the work machine. How true are the claims? I can’t say.

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18 points

lol gottem

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you do realize in this regard google/Apple are two sides of the same coin right?

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7 points

I don’t think he was drawing a comparison.

Mobile development sucks in general.

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5 points

I tried to follow an Android tutorial (in Kotlin, so it should have been a modern one) a while ago, and the only conclusion I can come to is it was all designed by 500 different people over 15 years who never spoke to each other, and nobody ever dared throw anything away.

I’ve never seen such a basic CRUD app (and incidentally wasn’t even doing the C, U or D of that) take so many lines of code to do β€œproperly”. Nothing that simple should be that complex. Everything seems geared up for β€œwhat if you want to translate to 100 different languages, change the back end at any point, and individually configure forms for these 80 different aspect ratios on devices?” Yeah, what if I don’t?

I still use Delphi for my sins, and while it has its faults (mostly that it’s closed source, and no fucker else uses it so I can’t work anywhere else), but simple apps like that are β€œdrop a few things on a form, add half a dozen lines of code and run it”.

There’s all these places in Android that should be easy, but because you’re going through three levels of XML files and umpteen factory classes, it isn’t.

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4 points

Eh, no need to bring the iOS/Android fight into this. OP saw an opportunity for a joke and took it. The butt of the joke is iOS because that’s what the sub is about. If it were for android the same joke could be made, though folks would probably make different ones with other more glaring issues that Google has.

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9 points

Tbf I’ve found google and apple fairly good to develop for(they handle app signing, deployment and more)

Once you fork over the cash, that is…

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9 points

NSOof

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4 points

Woah! Sick burn, bro!

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-8 points

We really don’t need this sort of pathetic shit posting.

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318 points

What’s reddit

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383 points

Lemmy-like platform. But looks like they haven’t implemented ActivityPub yet.

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149 points

They sound pretty shady. Think we should defederate?

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110 points
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16 points

Dam lemmy.world at it again

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11 points

I heard they have some piracy communities, so that’s reason enough for most admin

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8 points

They also seem to want to replace moderators with AI and even bought a company that does so. Weird, and probably easy to abuse. Wouldn’t trust.

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3 points

I don’t know why these platforms think they’ll ever take off without even implementing federation. It’s 2023!

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1 point

hola

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bxdbx

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115 points

Remember Digg? It’s like that except it’s mostly bots.

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83 points

It’s a website where bots talk to each other and posts links from all over the internet in order to scam corporations out of ad revenue.

Dead Internet theory personified.

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A centralized, proprietary alternative to Lemmy.

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12 points

I think its like Chlamydia but you catch it from sticking your head too far up your ass (hence spez has it the worst)

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4 points

a marketing tool

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171 points

Sorry you lost your community. That really sucks.

On the other hand, welcome to a new community!

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27 points

I’m just passing along the message. Communicate directly with the person responsible on Mastodon.

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1 point

More Lemmy users need to be like you.

Why are Lemmy users Assholes.

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9 points

Because Lemmy users are also humans and humans are assholes.

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8 points

Why are Lemmy users Assholes.

Because most Lemmy users are ex (or current) reddit users.

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117 points
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At this point, to me, it’s fuck reddit, spez is just a scapegoat that does what the board wants and all other admin happy to comply, he doesn’t own it like elon owns twitter

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52 points

Yep. Some of us remember when it was Fuck Ellen Pao, they seem to like their sacrificial CEOs over there, though I’m sure they get paid too much to be the scapegoat.

That just makes me stop and think about how bad Musk loves being That Guy. The other ones will take the heat and then float away on their golden parachutes, you never really hear from them again. Not him. He keeps making new companies so he can be That Guy at them.

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3 points

That Guy sounds like a henchman of The Man

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37 points

reminder that spez has literally admitted (in a print article) that he foresees himself being a slave owner

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Reminder that Reddit is a massive company and they’re using spez as fall guy and it’s completely working. It’s the only reason he has a job still.

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oh yeah, but it’s also fun to bully the head dweeb who put himself in the position to be the face of this massive company.
He’s not exactly the fall guy, he’s the co-founder who was on the β€œvictory lap” of steering the ship after the last fall guy (Ellen Pao) took the heat and he steered the ship into another problem before installing another fall guy.

I mean, that is unless we’re talking about who is embedded into the company from outside entities. Have a look at Reddit’s Director of Policy, who she worked for before and where, and try to post her name or history on Reddit. In my experience, it gets you permanently banned.

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1 point

Don’t know if just a typo, but for large parts of the Anglosphere, spaz is an unacceptable ableist slur. It’d be great if you could find a different way to insult Huffman, ta.

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3 points

Ya know as a rabid egalitarian socialist who idolizes John Brown I feel that slavery is universally wrong. So why do I suddenly feel the want to ebslave Spez for about a week?

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1 point

What!? Where? I haven’t heard that one yet

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106 points

Thank you for fighting a good fight. You’re far better than 98% of the boot-consuming power trippers that folded the moment it looked like they might lose their paper throne. Welcome home.

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44 points

I’m just passing along the message. Communicate directly with the person responsible on Mastodon.

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