The investigation is tied to an incident on an Alaska Airlines flight in early January. Boeing also told a Senate panel that it cannot find a record of the work done on the Alaska plane.

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I wonder if John Oliver had anything to do with it by bringing attention.

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I suspect the explosive decompression caused by one of the doors flying off a plane mid-air might have been more directly responsible than the rapidly downsizing streaming service comedy show that decided to make a few jokes about it.

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There was a documentary about Boeing that was very detailed and it was largely ignored. Oliver’s platform helped get the problem the attention it deserved.

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The truly rich shareholder billionaires that could affect the price, not the measly millionaires, have their own chartered personal business jets. 20 mil can get you a starter jet that runs well, say 1m/year for pilot, copilot, and crew to be on call 24/7. Fuel expenses and runway time, all in all its cheap for them. The ones that want a brand new jet are spending a 60-100mm.

No billionaire cares more about their non-existant demon tube travel than the profits. If they’re selling or shorting Boeing shares, it’s because of the public outrage, not their own fear of personal safety.

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Nah, the door blowing off the airplane was world news. The 2 Boeing crashes a handful of years ago were world news. It’s a massive American company. The writing has been on the wall for a while.

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Ummm, it’s a long going story which John reported quite late actually

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It is a long going story, but this extra concern happens right after their report and their reports get a lot of views.

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Sadly nothing Boeing has done is criminal in the US even though it absolutely should be. It’s just the bog standard corporate pursuit of profit at the expense of all else. Cutting corners, ignoring safety, rushing everything, and all with fewer people to do the work than are necessary. If Boeing is found criminally guilty for that half the corporations in the US are in trouble.

No, this is just political theater, much like the TSA is. Boeing has fucked up enough that people are starting to take notice, so this is just a little reminder to them that they need to stop fucking up quite so publicly. The executives will sweat a little, temporarily improve things, and then go right back to their usual bullshit in a year or two when things calm down. Worst case scenario they’ll put out a series of BP style “We’re sorry” videos where they emphasize how much quality and safety supposedly mean to them.

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Sadly nothing Boeing has done is criminal in the US even though it absolutely should be.

I doubt that you know whether Boeing has or has not broken any laws.

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He didn’t say illegal, he said criminal.

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They’re being investigated under “Conspiracy to Defraud the United States”, which does have criminal penalties.

Now, that’s a prison sentence of up to 5 years. People died because of the decisions by Boeing executives, and countless others were put at risk. There should be a whole lot more here that they should be charged with, but probably won’t.

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What is your point?

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OK, well nothing there’s anything public about anyway. It’s always possible they’ve been embezzling or I don’t know, running a drug smuggling ring out of their warehouses, but nothing they’ve probably done is illegal. Remember this is all just a response to the multiple accidents related to manufacturing defects in their planes. At this moment the worst charge they’re looking at is maybe criminal negligence.

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Cover up is where I’d put money. Supplying a federal agency with falsified documents or otherwise lying would start getting into criminal territory. Though I agree that we, the public, have no evidence of that.

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much like the TSA is

While mostly true, the TSA was also a stealth jobs program for flunkies who couldn’t get jobs anywhere else (and to help Bush pump his jobs numbers, which were abysmal). You kind of have to be a motivated fucking idiot to spend every day undermining the fourth amendment and acting like you’re doing a service to society. Especially with all the evidence of TSA agents using their authority to just outright steal shit. They’re not hiring the best, and everyone knows that they hire the worst of the worst for these jobs, so it’s hard to even call it “theater” anymore when everyone sees right through it. Hypernormalization.

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While you’re correct in your assessment, I’d like to remind people to not be assholes to TSA when they’re going through security. They’re people just trying to do their jobs like the rest of us. It’s a shit job with no recognition and a ton of public contact. The agents aren’t there because they want to stomp on your rights; they have bills to pay and people to take care of.

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Being assholes to them is irrational, they can be more of a nuisance to you than you can be to them. However I disagree people doing those jobs deserve any respect, doing evil because it’s a job and it pays and they can’t think of anything better… that doesn’t mean it suddenly becomes acceptable. The pawns don’t feel like they’re responsible for abuses.

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The FAA and the DOJ are not the same as TSA. Not at all.

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An enterprising DA should charge a corporation with murder under the personhood standard established by citizens united and go for the death penalty . Revoke their ability to exist in the state.

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If someone bought off that the bolts were reinstalled they can get in trouble for falsifying inspection records.

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The internet archive has worked reliably for me, but I am definitely checking this out.

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Diversify your options! That way if one disappears, you’ll have other options. Diversifying options also helps keep other options functioning, because they’ll still have userbases instead of the userbase shrinking.

I try to use every option available, especially because while Pypass Paywalls Clean has been super useful for me, it only works about 95% of the time. The rest of the time, I have to turn to another option.

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this is just a brute force blocker with a huge list of domains. you’re better off just using ublock origin.

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https://1ft.io/<url> also works a fair amount of the time (even more useful when used as a bookmarklet)

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Rosie the riveter is getting old and can’t keep up with the assembly speed…

2 years jail for Rocie for riveting slowly

2 weeks community service for the CEO who required managers to push Rocie faster

I’m a manager, so I’m pretty sure we’re blameless lol.

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Slap on the wrist incoming

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Slap on the wrist? More likely they’ll get the Federal Legislature to send in another multi-billion dollar bail-out.

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Yeah thats about the extent of consequences for American corps.

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The CEO of Boeing is running for president!

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Can’t be sued right now, he’s running for president…20 years later… still running for president…

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Not if they find a scapegoat.

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