Op thinks only the USA exists apparently
I really don’t get the need to have an app that does messaging. My phone DOES messaging, built in. Why do I need another one?
I have Android, my wife has iOS, I can chat with her singly and in group chat with other family members, I don’t see a need to complicate things with another chat application.
The only built in messaging app on my phone is “Messaging” that only handles SMS/MMS
I assume you’re American? When you need to talk to people across borders you need something like WhatsApp. SMS doesn’t cut it.
I’d rather use Signal but whatever… I’m being practical. Everyone I know is on WhatsApp.
The moment when I hear someone talking about SMS it is almost always an American. Can’t recall the last time I sent a text message to someone like that, wouldn’t surprise me if it was 10 years ago (for context: am Dutch)
I think there is plenty of SMS usage in Europe.
It’s easy as a technically savy user to lose sight on what less proficient users are using.
Yes, my parents both use perfectly fine their WhatsApp but they still send/receive a lot of SMS.
For context, I’m in France.
It’s not just the US, but you gotta realize that SMS has advantages. It isn’t better than any other protocol, but it has the major benefit of not being tied to internet connectivity. There are a ton of places where data signals aren’t as reliable.
It’s universal, in that every carrier I’ve heard of has it. So it should work no matter what carrier you’re on.
It will work right out of the box with any phone you buy because it’s carrier based. You don’t have to install anything else to use it. You don’t have an extra login, no need to remember another password.
It’s simple. You type, and that’s it. No attachments (that’s mms), no stickers, no junk. This makes it fast and easy for anyone to use.
And, you don’t have to convince anyone else to install anything.
Obviously, there’s benefits to data messaging, I’m not saying there aren’t. I use other messaging way more than SMS, and have for maybe a decade now, though what I’ve used has changed over time.
But, yah, we yanks tend to value it more than the other countries where it’s still important. That goes back to the pricing when data became a thing. Anywhere that data was cheap but sms merered, adopted things like whatsapp. Anywhere that sms was cheap, but data expensive used SMS by default. Iirc, Canada is the other big SMS focused nation. I think there’s one or two in SEA, and the same in south America. I don’t recall any of Europe having been sms focused, nor Africa.
TBH though, I tend to not get why anyone cares what another country uses within its own system. Like, if the EU did away with SMS entirely, it wouldn’t prevent the US and Canada from having SMS. And if we did away with messengers via data (as dumb as it would be), y’all would still be fine.
The only time it matters is for international, or directly cross border communication. But there’s multiple standards for that kind of communication anyway. Me and you aren’t going to exchange phone numbers to use SMS, nor are we likely to use whatsapp together. If we struck up a friendship, we’d figure out what platform we both like, and use it. Since this is lemmy, I suspect it would be matrix or signal or maybe telegram.
I send SM’s to my kids when they’re on the go, as they religiously disable gsm data and only use wifi, which means they regularly don’t get my WhatsApp messages.
Before they got their own smartphone I was scared that their data plans would cost me an arm and a leg, but it turns out they’re extremely stingy with their data 🤷♂️
Yeah, same here. In Germany WhatsApp is extremely dominant. I tried to move to Threema, but only a couple of people are using it in the end, even after discussing the whole Facebook thing. Some people are also on Signal, but again, only a few. In the end, especially for groups, I still have to use WhatsApp.
Fratures like sending location, quoting messages, formatting text etc.
And also encryption (ideally E2E) and maybe privacy (depending on the messenger).
What is the other person has a phone with different app preinstalled? What if you change your phone?
My wife has an iPhone, I have an Android phone, our kid has Android, his wife has iPhone… there have been zero problems using the native apps singly or in groups.
In fact, I had more problems trying a low-rent provider (Mint) than I ever did the various stock messaging apps.
#TelegramMasterRace
Yea people here aren’t a big fan of Telegram sometimes but it’s still much more privacy oriented than most main-stream messengers, and it’s just a very well-made app
It’s fast, supports uncompressed file sending, can log in on multiple phones at once, has cute stickers, customizable appearance, etc
Unencrypted by default, dubious e2e encryption, proprietary backend, based in Russia and later Saudi Arabia (if I’m not mistaken), which aren’t really known for their good stance on privacy.
It’s featureful, so it’s fine if you don’t really care for the privacy of the conversations you’re having in there, otherwise you have way better applications/protocols out there
Fuck Steven Crowder and any meme based on his bullshit
Everyone always says this every time this meme is posted without explaining why he sucks. I’m not motivated enough to Google it. Yes, I understand the irony of the fact that I’m writing this, and could have just googled it in the amount of time I’ve taken to type this out. I’m still not googling it.
This right here might be one of the reasons
A asshole conservative influencer whose bad faith knows no bounds. He’s also recently been in the news for treating his ex wife like a slave/property. Really creepy shit.
Tldr; he’s a huge asshole.
He’s also recently been in the news for treating his ex wife like a slave/property
Wait wtf?
I wish people would stop using the Crowder meme template.
I feel like I would never get along with anyone who has an attitude of “I believe X. Change my mind.” I can’t imagine anyone starting a conversation that way is not an asshole.
