cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/16660104

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Yeah I’m definitely not gonna donate money to people who are publically and proudly communists.

I might donate to my local instance though. They seem like cool cats.

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48 points

Nothing wrong with being a communist. Being a tankie on the other hand… Fuck them

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Yeah. And for tankies, sorry, “communists”, the Lemmy devs do whine about money an awful lot.

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You know there is money in communist nations right? The Soviet Ruble was a thing. This comment reeks of “You criticize society, yet you participate in it”. The Lemmy devs need money to survive, especially in a cutthroat capitalist world. I don’t find it hypocritical within their beliefs. Criticize them for their waving away authoritarian actions, for spreading propaganda, or silencing wrongthink on their instances, but I don’t think it’s fair to come at them for wanting to be fairly compensated for their labor, that’s Marxism 101.

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Nothing wrong with being a communist.

That might be debatable.

Being a tankie on the other hand… Fuck them

This is not.

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Communism is a political philosophy which in and of itself does not advocate for oppression. There is indeed nothing wrong with it, at least if you advocate for freedom of thought.

The Stalinist version of authoritarianism has been conflated with communism by american (mostly) media during the cold war. It is however a very specific ideology.

Apologists for authoritarian regimes, whatever their political leaning, deserve no platform or tolerance. Plurality of thought however is needed and essential.

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Communists are people who live on a commune.

A commune is a group of people living together and sharing possessions and responsibilities.

On one end, a group of friends who live in a house sharing food and living space, you can absolutely call them communists. And the other end of all the bad shit. Same with capitalist, where there’s multiple angles of it all.

That bad shit is tankie, where its authoritarian communists.

I hope I helped.

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Communists are people who live on a commune.

That’s perhaps not a commonly(hah) agreed definition of the word.

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53 points

The Lemmy devs are a bunch of tankie weirdos, so I’m definitely not going to give money to them.

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I just want Reddit back, it was much better. But it’s dead.

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0 points

Its been dead ever since normies found it and took it over. Around when /r/wtf turned into into a G rated Disney movie to appease advertisers or soccer moms, etc.

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I know, it’s such a shame.

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I’d bet my life savings they’re already funded by the CCP/Kremlin.

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… Can I have your reasoning? Just because they are communists doesn’t mean they are foreign agents, all it means is that they are authoritarians. Besides,idue to lemmy’s federated nature the governments would be better off infiltrating or straight up buying larger social media companies

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A lot of them aren’t actually communists, that’s a facade. I have no problem with most communists, it’s a wonderful theory and I get along much better with them than actual capitalists. In fact, I suspect a lot of them aren’t even people, they’re LLMs.

Lemmy.ml is a mouthpiece for the CCP. They aggressively spread CCP talking points. I abandoned an old account because they followed me around and downvoted everything I posted. This was right after the reddit exodus so I was posting positive, funny memes to help Lemmy grow. They’re very quick to delete and ban people who disrupt their echo chamber, and in my experience they almost never argue in good faith. A lot of them seem like bots, if you talk to them you’ll get weird, non sequitur responses.

Lemmy is a easy target for propaganda, there’s very little oversight.

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not every idiot on the internet is funded by the ccp

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Of course, but when someone is involved in leadership of a community that constantly spreads CCP propaganda and organizes to maliciously downvote people who push back against it, it’s quacking like a duck.

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40 points

Yeah they have made it clear they don’t want me around, on top of that. Donate to instances, not the devs.

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7 points

I’ll hang into my cash and hope for a fork by some non-tankie devs.

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Thanks. I was about to post that I haven’t yet decided whether to donate to my instance or the developers. I might just go with your opinion

Edit: although after reading, I’m not entirely sure. Part of supporting freedom to discuss is also supporting freedom to discuss things you disagree with or even things that are genuinely hateful. I do tend to end up more on the free speech side than the cancel side. The posted thread from archive at least the complainant moved on: we need to be able to vote with our feet like that

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26 points

Lemmy.ml is the devs instance, and they have a habit of banning anyone who even slightly differs from their opinions. Basically, if you’re not a tankie like them, they will likely ban you.

They’re not interested in free discussions.

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Slight correction: Lemmy.ml is their reach-out and diplomacy instance. Their actual instance is lemmygrad.

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11 points

But they just personally don’t want that on their instance while they create the lemmy software that allows for everyone to speak their opinions.

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15 points

Trust me, the Lemmy devs do not support freedom of discussion.

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Yeah, they donated their spare time to give you a decentralized platform where you could criticize them because they want to stifle “freedom of discussion”… That the lemmy.ml instance is heavily moderated on stuff like imperialist propaganda is a non-issue for freedom of expression due to the nature of federation. The devs do not even want their instance (lemmy.ml) to be the biggest, but actively promote joining other instances.

You confuse your right to express your opinions with the privilege of someone else providing you a platform for you to express them on. The devs provide the former without obligating themselves to be the ones to give you the latter.

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1 point

You are confusing freedom of discussion to using an specific instance with specific rules. Lemmy is clear proof of what you say is not true, and you are incorrect in your deductions of what/why and who.

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Why would I donate?

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14 points

Do you like it here? Do you want it to succeed? Do you realize that instance servers and rust developers cost money? Those are the reasons why.

Either we help this place thrive now, or we’ll be watching assholes like Threads dominate the Fediverse. We can all be part of the solution, or we can be apathetic and continue to complain about the corporate internet while doing absolutely nothing about it.

I have never regretted a donation to a FOSS project.

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It’s an ok experience. Realistically Reddit was much better before a bunch of changes and Lemmy hasn’t filled that/not sure it will catch up.

I don’t care if it succeeds or not. We’ll all just move on to the next thing if it doesn’t.

Yes of course it costs money - but it’s not my business to run and it’s the business’s problem. I’m not a charity or an investor so I don’t need to worry about whether the business succeeds or not.

So basically, no reason to donate.

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9 points

This is such a bummer of comment on so many levels. It’s like the tragedy of the commons became sentiment and chose nihilism

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10 points

Who do you think “the business” is? Lemmy is a free open source software created by volunteers. The one paid developer works for donations alone. Every instance is independently run, free of charge, and donation supported.

Have you looked around and noticed the lack of ads, algorithms, and promoted posts? All of that is due to Lemmy not being a business.

If you don’t want to contribute even a positive word toward other people donating what they can, then I’m really not sure what you’re doing in a brand new community driven FOSS project.

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7 points

Yeah no, after seeing how they treat their users and mods… I’ll stick to funding my instance.

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I’m on Lemmy.ml, so I’ve been donating €10 monthly for the past year to dessalines!

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2 points

Lol, what a waste

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4 points

Might as well just send the money straight to Putin’s propaganda department.

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Totally uncalled for

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