cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/16660104

Consider supporting Lemmy development or donating to your local server if you have the means. Peace!

Liberapay (preferred)
Open Collective
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Crypto.

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106 points

I’m assuming 1172 is a count of donations to official mainstream servers. I have definitely contributed to my local server.

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83 points

I think it’s only donations to the development team. Summing up the donors across Liberapay, Open Collective and Patreon gives close to the number in the title.

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11 points

I am a Patreon supporter of the developers. It’s that the best way to support the project?

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The Lemmy project - yes. You want to check if your home instance is sustainably funded too. I think lemmy.world for example is well funded. So is lemmy.ca - my home instance.

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7 points

I believe they prefer Libera pay over the other options last I had checked

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It’s quite nice running it myself

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78 points

Ugh! Can’t they just monetize the sale of our personal data and push nauseating ads every other post… like any other respectable post aggregation platform?

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Ads they won’t (At least I believe so.) But I won’t be surprised that some data harvesting companies have servers set up to collect all the data, aggregate, and sell it. Lemmy is an openly federated platform after all.

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8 points

sell it

Sell it? For what, 0 dollars? If anyone wants the data, they can just set up an instance themselves.

The data is freely available. Just like open source stuff.

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5 points

The vaule of the data totally relies on the aggregation process. It involves grouping, categorizing, and linking the unstructured data into a relatable and structured format. For example, A data harvesting company can use their own existing data and link a Lemmy user to a known identity or the probability to a known identity, using techniques like NLP and statistics. That’s value.

Data most of the time are free, but there are also datasets sold for a price.

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I think it’s a symptom of Lemmy’s core premise - where do I direct funds as the “common” user (read as less technically sophisticated)? To access and engage with Lemmy I…

  1. use an app…
  2. that channels a specific server…
  3. contained within are individual mods that maintain communities and curate content…
  4. and all of that lives within the larger “world” of Lemmy as an idea

There are many hands in that chain. Your dedicated users can handle negotiating that decision maybe, but the “common” user cannot - and this post is trying to discuss Lemmy at scale, so you’re talking about that “common” user.

Again, it’s counter to the founding spirit of Lemmy, but we’re missing a centralized path to supporting all of the distributed hands doing work on this idea. Not an easy problem to solve, but one that should be acknowledged.

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53 points

The Lemmy devs are a bunch of tankie weirdos, so I’m definitely not going to give money to them.

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40 points

Yeah they have made it clear they don’t want me around, on top of that. Donate to instances, not the devs.

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Thanks. I was about to post that I haven’t yet decided whether to donate to my instance or the developers. I might just go with your opinion

Edit: although after reading, I’m not entirely sure. Part of supporting freedom to discuss is also supporting freedom to discuss things you disagree with or even things that are genuinely hateful. I do tend to end up more on the free speech side than the cancel side. The posted thread from archive at least the complainant moved on: we need to be able to vote with our feet like that

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26 points

Lemmy.ml is the devs instance, and they have a habit of banning anyone who even slightly differs from their opinions. Basically, if you’re not a tankie like them, they will likely ban you.

They’re not interested in free discussions.

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11 points

But they just personally don’t want that on their instance while they create the lemmy software that allows for everyone to speak their opinions.

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1 point

Slight correction: Lemmy.ml is their reach-out and diplomacy instance. Their actual instance is lemmygrad.

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15 points

Trust me, the Lemmy devs do not support freedom of discussion.

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8 points

Yeah, they donated their spare time to give you a decentralized platform where you could criticize them because they want to stifle “freedom of discussion”… That the lemmy.ml instance is heavily moderated on stuff like imperialist propaganda is a non-issue for freedom of expression due to the nature of federation. The devs do not even want their instance (lemmy.ml) to be the biggest, but actively promote joining other instances.

You confuse your right to express your opinions with the privilege of someone else providing you a platform for you to express them on. The devs provide the former without obligating themselves to be the ones to give you the latter.

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1 point

You are confusing freedom of discussion to using an specific instance with specific rules. Lemmy is clear proof of what you say is not true, and you are incorrect in your deductions of what/why and who.

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7 points

I’ll hang into my cash and hope for a fork by some non-tankie devs.

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I just want Reddit back, it was much better. But it’s dead.

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0 points

Its been dead ever since normies found it and took it over. Around when /r/wtf turned into into a G rated Disney movie to appease advertisers or soccer moms, etc.

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0 points

I know, it’s such a shame.

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-6 points

I’d bet my life savings they’re already funded by the CCP/Kremlin.

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5 points

… Can I have your reasoning? Just because they are communists doesn’t mean they are foreign agents, all it means is that they are authoritarians. Besides,idue to lemmy’s federated nature the governments would be better off infiltrating or straight up buying larger social media companies

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A lot of them aren’t actually communists, that’s a facade. I have no problem with most communists, it’s a wonderful theory and I get along much better with them than actual capitalists. In fact, I suspect a lot of them aren’t even people, they’re LLMs.

Lemmy.ml is a mouthpiece for the CCP. They aggressively spread CCP talking points. I abandoned an old account because they followed me around and downvoted everything I posted. This was right after the reddit exodus so I was posting positive, funny memes to help Lemmy grow. They’re very quick to delete and ban people who disrupt their echo chamber, and in my experience they almost never argue in good faith. A lot of them seem like bots, if you talk to them you’ll get weird, non sequitur responses.

Lemmy is a easy target for propaganda, there’s very little oversight.

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not every idiot on the internet is funded by the ccp

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Of course, but when someone is involved in leadership of a community that constantly spreads CCP propaganda and organizes to maliciously downvote people who push back against it, it’s quacking like a duck.

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