Sign the petition on change.org for a guillotine emoji.

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petitioning for a fucking emoji epitomizes the criticism that social media is a vehicle for diverting action into impotent dialogue.

since we’re on the subject

retributive violence against individual actors is not the same as dismantling oppressive systems, and should not eclipse the important work of creating resilient communities and networks of mutual aid to replace those heirarchies.

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I think you took the joke a bit too seriously

Edit: oh wait wtf I didn’t notice the post body. I agree with you then lol

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You mean like when the emoji for gun went from something realistic to a squirt gun?

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Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.

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10 points

Sad guillotine noises

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Emoji are a new form of language and language dictates thought

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Yes, but there’s something to be said about the ouroboros of thought that social media produces.

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It’s funny how reverting to pictograms is being construed as β€œnew”.

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New and improved!

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retributive violence against individual actors is not the same as dismantling oppressive systems

My problem is that I only understand one of those things. The other is meaningless hot air, spewed exclusively by intellectual elites who may or may not have any idea of what that is even supposed to mean.

work of creating resilient communities and networks of mutual aid to replace those heirarchies.

And that explanation doesn’t tell me anything either. Put up a guillotine. Put the man in. Let the blade fall. I understand that. Create a network of mutual aid to replace hierarchies? Never saw that happen. Never learned about that, or how that is supposed to work. Don’t know what that is supposed to mean, or how that is supposed to play out.

If you assume anyone knows about any of that, and if you assume that anyone can imagine anything concrete about that, you are out of touch. You are communicating ineffectively. At least to me. And probably to most other people as well.

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The effect of examples is not to underestimate. That’s how they keep workers in check, and that’s how guillotining a king got 2 centuries of democracy.

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incredibly simplistic perspective, and intellectually dishonest; we traded monarchy for a dictatorship of the capital owning class.

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Yes, and it was a big paradigm shift, from blood linage to money linage.

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Bitching about someone else’s efforts is just bitching.

You offer to no alternative effort.

If this wasn’t social media, you’d not be saying this for fear of a swift ass whooping.

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thank goodness internet tough guys exist to defend limp-dick slacktivism.

hashtag resist

like and subscribe πŸ‘

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Did you just call my sincere effort to get an international movement for the recognition of the guillotine emoji going shitpost β€œlimp-dick slacktivism”?

I’ll have you know I am so anti work I am currently not even employed.

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…and support me on patreon!

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Here’s my alternative effort: I joined the SSBN force to get a front row seat to the end of the world. Gimme a valid and authentic EAM and I’ll flip that switch like there’s no tomorrow, 'cause there won’t be.

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94 points

Did…did he just invent the vacation?

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Next up β€œI’m a CEO who gets hungry in the middle of the day, so I had a sandwich and some chips and found my creative spark.”

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13 points

more like I had some avocado toast in a nice cafe with my latte. Ah yes, the creative spark.

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11 points

I had some avocado toast 5 years ago and now I can’t buy a house :(

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5 points

I had some avocado toast in the house that I own…

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These are CEOs, it’s more like, β€œhad my personal chef whip me up an avocado toast reduction over toast made from avocado while flying to the coast for the third time this week and found my creative spark.”

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9 points

Nope, footballer Gary Neville beat him to it a few months ago!

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That’s amazing.

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I remember watching this on Have I Got News For You.

I don’t know why I watch it, I’m not even from that continent.

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A continuous 30 day vacation is only 20 working days or so. In my country that’s the government mandated minimum.

I think 25 or 30 workday paid vacation mandate is better for your mental health and productivity.

I actually get β€œunlimited” paid vacation days, which sounds like a bit of a shady practice. But I’ve already taken 30 days this year and I get absolutely no complaints. I’m planning on taking at least one more week this year.

I can’t imagine not having any vacation days. America sounds nice and all if you’re making 150k+ but I’d hate to work there at median income.

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A gigantic portion of our population makes 50-60k each so household income looks like 100k+ until you look and see that there are plenty of perpetually single people like myself β€œstuck” only making 60k with 10 vacation days.

2/10 would not recommend.

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America is a big place with lots of different employers so your statement really isn’t valid. Plenty of people get a decent amount of vacation even at lower wages. Certainly not enough which is why we need to keep fighting for worker rights. Sorry but statements like yours really make my ass itch because you’re using our suffering to prop yourself up when I’m sure you’ve got plenty of problems in your own country that you remain apathetic and inactive about every day. You’ll probably want to reply that you’re just trying to show some kind of sympathy but that’s not ever what it comes across as when anyone tries to speak about the lives of people living in a different country.

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Things will never improve if we don’t point to something better and aspire to it.

It’s why Canada sucks so much. Every time one of our problems is being talked about, everyone compares ourselves to the US and shrugs. When you point to something better it’s unattainable, but at least we’re not as bad as america!! We’re a country of apathy.

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What’s the point of this whole platform if we’re not exchanging experiences?

I know there there was a feeling by some back on Reddit that Europeans like pissing on the US without self-reflection. Maybe that is partly true, but you also don’t read any of the self-reflections because chances they are in our native languages.

But for me personally I have considered moving to the US as a skilled worker, which if possible is a privileged position to begin with. I’m in a field that pays much better in the US so I am still envious of colleagues in the US making 1.5 to 2 times what I do. But I just don’t love my job. I’m pretty good at parts of it, but I hate (read: am bad at) some other necessary parts of my job. So in the end my career options are somewhat limited. So yeah, there is probably a degree of cognitive dissonance involved.

Here is a list of things wrong with the Netherlands, just to balance shit

  • Dutch childcare benefits scandal: Government falsely accused vulnerable citizens of fraud, leading to children being placed out of the house, bankruptcies, and even suicides
  • Youth minimum wage (though being phased out)
  • Labour exploitation through flexible contracts
  • Terrible working and housing conditions for foreign slaughterhouse workers
  • Nitrogen crisis
  • Housing crisis, partly because of demographic developments (fewer people per house, slight growth through immigration) but now also because of the nitrogen crisis
  • The government basically forced hundreds of asylum seekers to sleep outside last summer because of budget cuts which are probably popular with a certain constituency
  • Earthquakes crisis in Groningen because of natural gas extraction, with a government turning a blind eye to people who saw the value of their houses tank because of structural damage

And that’s before you get to all the things you could say for any developed western capitalist nation.

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IMO much better than workaholic executives who use their own unhealthy lifestyle as justification to inflict it on others.

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You need more, mate.

At 42 days here. We can spread them out over the year

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30 day vacations for all.

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Should be 4 day work week and 6 weeks vacation. There is absolutely no need to work this much. So many bullshit jobs, just to keep people employed and busy all their lives.

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Not just employed but underemployed. Forty hours a week for not-40 hours worth of money. We call it a grind because it’s designed to wear us down to bare subsistence.

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Sure, that gets you the time off, but this guy flew to Paris and hung out for that entire time and found his β€œcreative spark”. We also need like 50% higher wages so we’re not sitting in a Parisian cafe thinking β€œoh fuck this vacation is going to bankrupt me” or stuck at home unable to afford the flight to begin with.

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12 points

Laughs in german labor laws.

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6 points

We only have 6 weeks in Denmark!

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Technically four weeks aren’t 30 days.

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With 20 workdays off you can go in vacation for a month. At most companies you have more than 20 days even.

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Seriously… I literally just opened up lemmy after checking my vacation balance to see this lol Took 5 years to get 10 days vacation at my current job and I’ve used them all already… boooo

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I will never understand how American culture has considered that acceptable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country

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Mostly because American culture is β€œI got mine, fuck you.”

A culture brainwashed to glorify β€œrugged individualism” is a culture of self centered inconsiderate assholes.

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4 weeks/year is standard isn’t it?

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My work you get one week the first year. Two weeks for each of the following 6 years, three weeks the 7 years after that, then finally 4 weeks once you have been with the company for 15 years.

If you don’t work for any 30 day period, you are let go and if you work for the company again I’m the future, you restart the benefits back at 1 week vacation.

It’s actually one of the best around. I just hit 15 years and get 4 weeks now. Yay America.

Oh I should mention they now β€œexpect more” out of a 15 year employee so now my evaluations are almost always β€œbarely acceptable”, despite going above and beyond always. They want us to feel like we are lucky to have the job and they could fire us at any time. It gets worse the more benefits they are paying.

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I was going to make fun of you for being American, but then I realised that’s like punching an abused puppy.

RIP my dude, hopefully one day you guys can join the modern world.

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I get a week or I can take the check and keep working.

Guess what I end up doing?

I delay the end of year misery for an extra week. That’s what I do.

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My current job gives everyone 16 days a year. I love my job, the dynamic, the people, the product. But I won’t last 2 years max with only 16 days off a year.

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Lmao not even close. Canada is just 10 days. Afaik USA it can be litterally 0

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Here it’s 25 days minimum by law, and you are entitled to use 20 of them consecutively if you want to. If you have a good job it’s often closer to 30 days.

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Ah, fellow European

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Kiwi.

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β€œWhat if I pay my workers even less…” πŸ€”

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