It is probably due to a number of people stopping using their alts after some instance hopping.

Also a few people who came to see how it was, and weren’t attracted enough to become regular visitors.

Curious to see at which number we’ll stabilize.

Next peak will probably happen after either major features release (e.g. exhaustive mod tools allowing reluctant communities to move from Reddit) or the next Reddit fuck up (e.g. removing old.reddit)

Stats on each server: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

35 points

That’s a personal opinion, but I would also be happy to see some groups spread on different communities to decide together on one community and make it grow together.

Browsing /all and seeing still another book or gaming community first post always makes me question if that post would not be better used in an established community.

And I know this will happen naturally overtime, I guess sometimes I would just like things to happen a bit faster and on a organized way.

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I personally don’t mind having multiple communities on different servers because some of these servers go down… a lot.

Makes sense to have “backups” sort of littered throughout the Fediverse, imho. I like seeing what different groups have to say about the subjects, too. Like, a thread will be wildly different on lemmy.world and beehaw.org, because I’m fairly sure beehaw is still defederated with lemmy.world, meaning I’ll see very different groups of people on each instance’s community.

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It would be nice if servers could be tuned to prioritize locally hosted communities over remote ones. There’s a real opportunity for each community on the same topic to have distinct flavours and cultures, but so long as they all appear to be the same damn thing and appear with the same frequency in the content stream, it’s never going to happen. It’s not like people really look at the remote server domain.

It’s really nice that the Local feed exists, but when people just bulk subscribe to 8 different communities with the same name, stick to their subscription list, and then treat them all as the same place, that just kills a lot of potential for heterogeneity.

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It’s really nice that the Local feed exists, but when people just bulk subscribe to 8 different communities with the same name, stick to their subscription list, and then treat them all as the same place, that just kills a lot of potential for heterogeneity.

That’s what people are used to from Reddit. They’re used to having one giant subreddit about one topic. That’s why everyone’s centralized themselves on lemmy.world or kbin.social. That’s why one of the most requested features is the ability to make “multireddits” (or otherwise combining all different communities into one)

This is a culture problem to solve, technical solutions can only do so much to help.

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Maybe it’s because the content here just isn’t as vast. I’m nkt going back to reddit for awhile, but there’s so little to see on lemmy to me. Despite numerous subscriptions, I see very few memes and far too much political content. Of that political content it’s all the same. Sometimes this place feels like a hive-mind. Not that Reddit wasn’t, but it depended on the sub. Now it’s shaped by instance and everything here just feels stale

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I see very few memes and far too much political content. Of that political content it’s all the same.

That’s funny because the meme subs still far outpace posting from politics subs for me, and I mostly see memes.

In fact, a few weeks ago, there were lots of complaints in meme comments of how the only thing they saw on the site was memes.

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Maybe I need to be on ml then. I feel like world is just full of the same.

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I quite like beehaw and their communities, and yeah, you’re missing out on those if you’re on world, from what I understand. (Fairly sure they’re still defederated.)

I personally like lemmy.ml, but I know it’s not for everyone, and the admins would prefer to keep it a smaller instance, I think. I’m only here because there weren’t as many federated servers three years ago when I made an account.

You also might check out !196@lemmy.blahaj.zone, they flood my feed with good memes.

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Try out Kbin, as well. Personally I have none of the usual Lemmy complaints

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Kbin is a nice alternative. Content cycles out of Hot a lot faster on here.

You also get microblogging support on here, so you have access to the Mastodon side of the fediverse as well without having to copy and paste links.

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22 points

Memes may be thriving but niche interest communities can’t even get off the ground.

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So just like reddit 14 years ago when I first left Digg for greener pastures. When I joined, it was years before my local city subreddit sprang to life, and for years, it had around 1000 active accounts and only now has over 10k accounts.

Man, if the people on reddit back in the day had sat around complaining about lack of content like this, the site would have died. Instead they started making fucking content.

It takes time for communities to grow, and it feels like a lot of the folks who left reddit only ever knew reddit as a ready-made-community filled with thousands of people already. As in, they were latecomers and missed all the slow growth.

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Even the memes are pretty stale, definitely not dank. Many of these memes are reposts of stuff I saw years ago on Reddit.

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Political memes are so stale these days.

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Noted! Good feedback.

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I see very few memes and far too much political content

Where are you even looking? My timeline is flooded with memes all the damn time. They’re practically drowning out any posts of value at this point.

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You should block the meme communities if you dislike it, keep the communities with contributions you like.

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I see very few memes and far too much political content.

This is what is turning me off from lemmy, worst of it I see a lot of shitty political memes, it wasn’t this bad at the beginning of the reddit exodus.

And then there isn’t seem to be a neutral instance, I was in world and then they banned the piracy community, I moved to lemm.ee and all I see is stupid hexbear posts, I appreciate that they don’t defederate willy nilly but Lemmy urgently needs the block instance feature from user level.

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In the meantime there are some apps that “block” instances. Connect has it, but it doesn’t fully block the instance, more like it shows up in the feed with a content warning that the message is from a blocked instance and you can choose to view it if you want. I also do think lemm.ee will defederate from hexbear pretty soon. The admin has had personally horrendous experiences with their users and that meta thread about it was a dumpster fire of hexbear users making unrelated political comments and blocking the actual instance users from having a discussion. It got locked at almost 2000 comments so I’m sure he’s still digging through that toxic waste to make his decision.

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I think the default activity sort is part of the problem. Sorting by activity means everyone is just looking at and engaging with the same topics for 24 hours or so. There needs to be some “hot” category or something so that new stuff gets churned through a bit more regularly. New is too new, top is even more stale, activity causes things with high activity to stay high. It makes for very samey content.

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Hot exists, doesn’t it?

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Have they finally fixed this to not show old posts out of nowhere in the “Hot” feed? I’ve been avoiding this sorting because of that and hadn’t read anything about it being corrected… yet.

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In my experience, Active and Hot have been opposite extremes of freshness. Active shows posts that are more than a day old, and Hot shows posts that have no comments and are just a couple of minutes old.

Not to say it’s all bad. Your post was just a couple of scrolls down on my feed.

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Every time I peek into reddit, it’s just a dumpster fire of toxic comments screaming at each other with strawman arguments and reeing that videos are fake. It’s exhausting.

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Not that Reddit wasn’t, but it depended on the sub. Now it’s shaped by instance and everything here just feels stale

Been saying this for months. No one seems to understand what made reddit grow, and it is ironically very much like /r/place when you get down to it:

Reddit was a singular canvas that all users worked on together. Posts, comments, and voting shaped the site as a whole. The front page of Reddit was the result of it’s userbase, and it’s userbase was diverse. Because Reddit forced all users, of all backgrounds and ideologies, to exist together in the same space, and work on the same canvas, it created something living and varied.

You may not have ever gotten along with people from a certain subreddit in th comments, but I promise, the two of you worked together at one point to get a post to the front page or a comment to the top, and you didn’t even know it. Thos little moments where diametrically opposed people shared a liking of something by how they voted. On the surface, everyone bickered. Under the hood, they were all unknowingly agreeing and cooperating all the time, and that was what powered reddit’s engine: it’s diverse userbase’s activity.

That’s why gated communities like Tildes and all these curated instances will never reach Reddit levels: they are starving the engine.

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That’s why gated communities like Tildes and all these curated instances will never reach Reddit levels: they are starving the engine.

The phrasing here kinda implies this is a bad thing and everyone should be focused on 🚀 constant growth 🚀.

Tildes in particular has an extreme focus on quality over quantity and has some really interesting ideas on moderation (that haven’t been implemented due to lack of time on Deimos’ part). The site is still considered an alpha after all this time.

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25 points

Yeah. Since Reddit is back to normal, the majority of people who left it due to protest now returns.

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Yeah, there’s even upcoming third-party apps to fill the void left by apps like Apollo (at least for a while).

What keeps me there and not here are some niche subs for music genres/subgenres and bands, and I don’t see any of them crossing over to the fediverse until Reddit completely and utterly dies. It even seems like some went over to Discord and I’m not really a fan of that, but it’s probably more lively there than here for my interests.

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By normal do you mean the protests have ended, or they undid some of the unpopular changes?

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Why would they undo those changes. They did r/place, that should be enough. And yes, the protests have ended.

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Are they getting rid of old.reddit???

That’s the only thing that makes the site readable. Damn.

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“e.g.” is short for “exempli gratia”, which is latin for “for example”.

It hasn’t been announced that they’re getting rid of it, but it’s a good example of what Reddit could do to fuck up.

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I never actually looked this up before. I think in my head I’ve been reading it as being short for “eggsample” this whole time

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I thought “example given”

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They haven’t said they will, but they might some day.

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It’s probably more likely that we’re losing more of the “Fediverse is just Reddit 2.0” kind of people - which is great because that’s 10k or w/e less Redditors that’ll go back on the platform they actually want to use.

Fediverse doesn’t have an ocean of communities and content (yet), but that’s fine with me since I’m more active here and trying to offer more insightful comments outside of the Reddit staple “this” kind of comments.

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