I am somewhat amazed how much influence Israel seems to have over the United States. Even colleges and universities behaving as though they may as well be established in some autocratic, authoritarian state. It’s like a signal was sent out all over the US. The same nation that brought the world NSO has people doxxing students for supporting Palestinians. How easy it’s become to dehumanize people, women and children, babies even because the religious fervor truly has the right wing zealots believing they are “the chosen people”. The dehumanization of Palestinian people is quite disgusting.
Another reminder that religion and politics should never be allowed to mix anywhere.
Ita not just the US, all Western countries except Ireland are basically doing whatever Israel wants. Check any larger western newspaper and none are really critical of Israel. Look at Germany for an example of how fucked they are in Europe.
Canada, Australia, Britain, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland, Estonia, Japan, Austria and Romania All cut UNRWA funding based purely on Israels word with zero evidence.
When will this lie stop? People never shut the fuck up about this conflict in the west. There are endless protests and the media repeats that Isreal needs to stop every day.
And yet all day, every day, on Lemmy people cry about the west not caring or writing about it or shilling for Isreal. It’s just delusional bordering on dishonest at this point.
You are conflating citizens with governments. Just because we protest doesn’t mean our governments are not sending weapons and support their way.
And the media pushes Israeli talking points and often does shit like refusing to use the word genocide, while using loaded language to make Israel seem the victim.
Because the US is full of Christian zealots who believe that when the Jews manage to rebuild their temple, armageddon happens and they all get to go to Heaven.
They are actively cheering on WWIII and the deaths of billions over a 2000 year old work of fiction. And are neglecting to mention that this Jewish country they all support will be bombed into dust for their messiah to return.
Christian Zionists belong to a death cult and the fact that they have so much influence over an allegedly secular government is gross.
In 2022, NSO Group was reportedly selling zero-click exploits to governments for breaking into individuals’ phones.
Remember, some of us aren’t as informed as you, we need a little help.
NSO Pegasus spyware was discovered on phones of activists, journalists, dissenters the world over some years ago. It is now likely being used by the US government which cried foul when the news first broke.
It was found to be a zero-click !!! spyware. Meaning you didn’t even have to click on something accidentally or ignorantly for it to get established on your phone. Then you were basically owned. They sold it to whoever, especially autocratic, authoritarian regimes who were using it to surely crackdown on any dissent.
Surveillance as a Service: The Global Impact of Israeli “Defense” Technologies on Privacy and Human Rights
A stasi like future awaits us all, even inside democracies.
Its not surprising, the most support outside of Nazi Germany for Nazi Germany was from the United States including the Nazis taking eugenics from field trips to the southern United States.
Source on Nazis getting the idea for eugenics from the Southern US? That sounds like Netanyahu’s insane take that the Nazis got the idea for the Holocaust from a Palestinian mufti.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1299061/
Is well published and well known, eugenics are an American creation, Germany just managed to nationalize it to an astounding degree. Hell the us was still sterilizing criminals and the mentally unfit up until iirc like 1990 and I’m 1976 it came out that about 25% of the American native population were forcibly sterilized… You know 40+ yrs after WW2.
Fuck you, Biden. I’m only voting for you because the alternatives are worse.
Do what you want, but don’t kid yourself into thinking you’ll help the situation by exercising a vote for Trump, 3rd party, or abstaining from voting. Expect a lot worse treatment for Palestine, its citizenry, and other middle eastern countries from his opponent.
That being said, you may not have to worry about who you’ll vote for ever again if the fascists gain control… you’ll have a lot of other things to worry about, but voting won’t be one of them.
I’ll vote 3rd party with you. Don’t be dissuaded by the neoliberal hate machine, we have a right to choose something better. Maybe if enough of us believe that, we could have it.
Not everybody voting against Trump are neoliberals. We just believe a 2nd Trump term will be significantly worse than a 2nd Biden term.
Voting 3rd party is just a way to make you feel like you’ve done something good without actually doing anything good. Fact is, are only 2 parties in this country.
There is no lesser evil when it comes to genocide. You have already hit rock bottom.
What if the other side is also genocide along with totalitarian fascist rule?
You still would be voting for a self proclaimed non-Jewish Zionist whose pockets are lined by Israel to commit genocide. Don’t let any “other side” or bullshit “trolley problem” argument take that away from you. At least have the balls to own it. This whole purely pragmatic approach to “lesser evil dilemma” is what brought Biden to power in the first place. But yeah surely next time it’ll be better. Doesn’t matter how many people die because “Orange man bad”.
Since I couldn’t get the message across on my first comment, let me repeat myself. There is no lesser evil when it comes to genocide.
Yeah so let’s elect a man that said he’d be a dictator to the highest office and put him in charge of the largest military on the globe. Sounds like a nice alternative in our facsimile of democracy.
Lemmy sure does seem to have a more vocal insane minority that are either Russian shills, or just want to burn down the US. This is my biggest issue with the fediverse.
Anyone who claims Trump and Biden are the same is just a fool.
Dearest Biden,
Please stop trying to get Trump elected.
Pleasant Regards, Everyone who gives a shit about abortion access.
Only reason Biden is free to support genocide is because his opponent is Trump. It is the current political climate responsible for Israel’s blatant disregard to humanity.
This is why Biden doesn’t care about his campaign promises. He just has to use the name Trump a few times in his speech and call several minority groups “the fabric of society” while doing nothing to help them. The only people winning during the next election is the lobbyists and the “bOtH muh SiDeS” people (the ones who complain if you critique about their favorite party).
Remember, Trump moved the whole US embassy to Jerusalem just to give Palestinians the middle finger. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1I810Z/ You can be sure that a very high majority of US politicians will take the same pro-Israel stand. The reason is simply campaign funding and lobbying. Look at AIPAC
fucking seriously. he won’t step aside, and he won’t stop holding it over the abyss.
he wants to make it as painful as possible to vote for him, but I just… I know at this point I can’t, abd I’m starting to see much less radical people than me make that call.
It terrifies me as a transgender immigrant because I know Trump literally is dying for the chance to genocide me and my friends, but Biden really isn’t helping at all. This country is a failure.
yep! spin the wheel of genocides!
this is why you don’t vote for the “lesser evil” for twenty years. takes electoral politics from ‘impotent’ to ‘suicidal’.
its… well its not cool that this is the only option, but there are other kinds.
that’s not really a response to anything I said, its just suggesting that I’m a child and my opinions dont matter until they match yours. which is kinda shitty.
possibly because you dont have any coherent criticism of what I said, but dont want to change your beliefs or admit mine could also be valid?
Because Trump would have handled this better?
Only reason we didn’t end up with a war in Iran in 2020 is pure fucking luck.
No, Trump is clearly fucking worse… but I don’t want free Palestine folks to have a reason not to vote for Biden.
I agree Biden is 100% fucking this up. I agree that I’m worried that the Democrats will somehow snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by losing to an opponent beaten once before because of how truly awful Trump is.
But I’m absolutely amazed at the free Palestine folks who are threatening that they’re the vote between Biden, who’s wagging a finger at Israel going “don’t” and fuck all else… and the guy who calls Netanyahu by his first name, buddied up to Israel, moved the embassy to Jerusalem, wanted to ban Muslims from the US, and is cozied up to the evangelicals who want to support Israel starting a holy war just so they can have Revalations go off.
Like both parties are bad, but there’s bad… and there’s “lets throw styrofoam containers of gasoline on the fire, that’ll surely put it out.”
That doesn’t make any sense.
If Iran is allied with Russia, and Trump is Putin’s puppet, then wouldn’t Trump be good for Iran?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/04/10/iran-nuclear-bomb-iaea-fordow/
Brought to you by decades of Israeli lobbying money mixed with gullible religious morons in the U.S. legislature. Money in politics leads to genocide.
In 2023 Israel spent $4 million in lobbying and got $4 billion in aid. We should pool together and buy ourselves some politicians, y’all. No other investment reliably returns 1000:1.
We should pool together and buy ourselves some politicians, y’all.
Traditionally, one calls that “forming a party” but unfortunately we live in a two-party system.
It should be noted that the $4B Israel got wasn’t just $4B for Israel. It was $4B for purchase of US weapons systems too Israel. And it wasn’t just Israel lobbying for this spending. You had a host of MIC lobbyists throwing in their own millions.
It should further be noted that AIPAC isn’t just doing a one-time $4M retail purchase of legislation. They’ve spend decades building up an enormous back bench of former US Congresscritters, allied staffers, political bundlers, event organizers, and religious affiliates. They injected $4M down the funnel in an 11th-hour push for the next traunch of military kick-backs that they’ve been receiving since the Bush 43 administration.
No other investment reliably returns 1000:1.
Its important to recognize that Israel provides an incredibly vital service to the US military in the form of maintaining control of the Suez Canal. Its not just a 1000:1 ROI. They’re holding Egyptian national leadership at gunpoint and we’re kicking them over some money to keep the gun loaded.
Re: gullible religious folks in the US.
After 9/11, I remember seeing “Jews for Jesus” pamphlets being passed out by right wing Jewish folks to any person passing by. It was a cynical ploy to use the environment to further right wing Israeli religious interests. Land grabs by way of illegal settlement building has never stopped.
Of course, many, perhaps majority even, of evangelical and fundamentalist christians in America are the most ‘useful idiots’ since they believe the Rapture requires full support of Israel in order for end times Prophecy to come to fruition.
Are you sure the people passing it out were right-wing Jews and not “Messianic Jews?” Because the latter are often people who were raised as Christians, found out they had a Jewish grandmother, then became a Messianic Jew to feel closer to her.
There are also plenty of people who are third-generation Messianic Jew or whatever.
Sure, there are people who are ethnically Jewish and grew up steeped in Jewish culture and religion but one day converted to Christianity, but they aren’t the majority of the “Jews for Jesus” crowd.
It could’ve been, I can only say they wore kippah’s and had sidelocks that you’d see in orthodox communities.
(ps i am an atheist btw and respect peoples right to believe in whatever gets you some peace in this life. but also see that wherever religion and politics meet it tends to become problematic. some minority or other will suffer, not to mention loss of basic human rights, oppression, telling other people how they must live their lives, ancient based roles and kingdoms that must be re-established, who they can love, violence, bigotry, etc… and thats no bueno)
