Since a few folks seem unaware of this, I’m posting anew for visibility.

68 points

I greatly appreciate this

I had no fucking clue for two years. How much longer would I have remained ignorant? Frightening.

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41 points

Well, the weird thing is they haven’t actually done anything to the app yet. Looks like they’re just focusing on the next major release. The version that has been available in the store for the last 2 years hasn’t been fucked with.

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I just hopped to another launcher by total coincidence a couple of weeks ago. This is welcome news

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15 points

If you are concerned about analytics and tracking then I have bad news for you. Most apps on the Play Store are absolutely loaded with inbuilt trackers. You can check them using Exodus (or use the Aurora Store since privacy reports are displayed by default there).

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Thank you for that site. Very useful.

I haven’t seen that feature on the aurora store, but I probably just missed it.

I expect free apps to have tracking, but if it’s something like an app launcher that needs so many permissions and is running all the time… That’s just horrific

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4 points

I haven’t seen that feature on the aurora store, but I probably just missed it.

It’s towards the bottom of the page for whatever app you’re viewing. Sometimes it won’t have a privacy report available by default, but you can always go through to the website and generate one yourself. One of the worst apps I’ve found so far is the Woolworths one (Australian supermarket). It contains 11 trackers and within the first 6 hours following installation my tracker blocker had already prevented 11,325 tracking attempts.

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12 points

I mean if you install apps from commercial stores then this is the norm. If its not explicitly proven to be tracking and analytics free, then its usually not.

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40 points

Just to note, I’m on v8.0.14 and there has been 0 bytes of data coming in and going out.

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I have 7.0.58 and also 0 bytes. But once I disabled internet connection for nova completely I got nagging notification about that really fast

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10 points

I had analytics turned on (new phone and didn’t check it before), and the app info only shows 76 kB have been transferred in the past 30 days. Seems pretty reasonable, but I disabled it anyways out of principal.

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How did you manage that? A friend of mine uses the launcher and was unable to find an option for it.

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Some custom phone OSs (definitely GrapheneOS that mostly only works on pixels) will have the option for it.

Another way is to use something like Tracker Control (installed through F-droid not the info-only one on Google Play) and that let’s you disable internet access for a specific app.

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1 point

Nova settings > advanced > error & usage reporting

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39 points

There’s a system over at Nova Discord where we reply to polls about the new features, we’re basically guinea pigs trying out stuff Branch is going to push out via their deals with OEMs. That’s how I’ve understood it.

There is no bytes being sent out with the beta, and replying in Discord is voluntary, obviously.

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37 points

It pisses me off that apps I’ve paid for become tainted like this.

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To be fair, i paid like $3, 10 years ago… So, not a great revenue stream for the developer

Obviously selling to an ad company is not good, but i’m not sure what the alternative is in a world where everyone expects everything for free

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25 points

So, not a great revenue stream for the developer

For context Nova Prime has over 5+ million paying users, and it’s $6 when I check the Play Store.

The dev was just a single guy, who later hired someone to help with support and artwork. But if $30 million in revenue wasn’t good enough, I’m not sure what else you could expect.

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13 points

while still a lot of money, keep in mind, a decent amount of those downloads was bought on sale. in my own personal context, i only had bought it when it was 1$

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7 points

Had no idea about the user base numbers. I withdraw my objections lol

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26 points

It was unfortunate, but not unexpected. Neo Launcher is a decent alternative, though it’s not quite on par with Nova, and their development has been very slow the last year. Benefit of GrapheneOS, I can just disable Nova’s network access, so I don’t really have to compromise here thankfully.

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Just checked the app on my phone, 0 bites used, I don’t really think they get any live data from it.

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Not yet. Nova Launcher 8 is the problem version and it’s still in beta. If you’re still using version 7, particularly 7.0.57, then it’s the version from before the buyout and it’s clean. It’s suspected they turned some analytics on with 7.0.58, but even that still looks clean to me. That is the only update they’ve pushed since the buyout.

My guess is they didn’t want to fuck with the current version, they just wanted to devote their focus to getting all the tracking shit into the upcoming major release.

If you disable auto updates now, you’ll probably be fine until it stops working

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14 points

Nova 8 shows 0 bytes used with error and usage reporting toggled off in advanced settings, so it seems they respect that setting.

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4 points

Making guesses when you don’t have any actual information makes you look like a fool.

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6 points

I’ve disabled network access to Nova on a stock Android phone with NetGuard https://netguard.me/

And if you worry about how to update NetGuard automatically you can do it with Obtainium

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3 points

I quite like Neo/Omega launcher, it’s probably the best FOSS launcher I’ve found.

their development has been very slow the last year

This is the painful part. There are regressions that have been introduced which have sat their for years, and I’ve got no idea if they’ll ever be fixed. But such is the open source way, they owe me nothing and are still providing a generally good experience for free!

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