148 points

“Died of high chili consumption”? Is this actual English? Those words don’t seem to fit together that way. I feel like if this were a real thing, Thailand wouldn’t exist.

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It seems like a more accurate title would be “died of high capsaicin consumption due to a heart defect”.

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130 points

That’s still misleading. He died of a heart defect exacerbated by high capsaicin consumption.

Any high stress event could have exacerbated the heart defect.

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Wow. “Died of defect triggered by high capsaicin intake” vs “died of high capsaicin intake”

Feel better?

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-29 points

You have too much time on your hands.

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10 points

Ya but this headline gets the clicks and that’s all they care about

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There was an arstechnica article on this topic TLDR:

The newer 🌶️ pack so much 🥵 that we discovered too much capsaicin can cause feel bad effects in the body.

Thailand wasn’t built with ghost peppers and above. We never had 14million scovilles per bite before.

Edit: found it https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/09/teens-death-after-eating-a-single-chip-highlights-risks-of-ultra-spicy-foods/

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Capsaicin is a crystalline structure. Pure capsaicin is 16 million scoville units, and is a crystal. I highly doubt there’s any food that anyone is eating that is 14 million scoville units per bite. That would require 87.5% of the food to be crystalline.

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20 points

It’s a powder flavoring applied on top of a chip.

People don’t eat huge chunks of salt any more than they are eating chunks of capsaicin.

If we can salt chips, we can probably capsaicinize them too.

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2 points

If I’m not mistaken, pure capsaicin isn’t even that spicy, it only becomes spicy when dissolved in something like alcohol and then taken.

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7 points

What does Thailand have to do with anything?

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0 points

They like 🌶️

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Mexican food has nothing on Thai food when it comes to spice. I like spicy food, even Thai-spicy food, but I have only once made the mistake of asking them to make it as spicy as they could. I swear that little old lady was hiding a huge grin as she marched that order back to the kitchen. Then they only came out to refill my water once.

It was fucking delicious, but I think I started to hallucinate.

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There is another country that would not exist if high Chile consumption was a real thing.

This is real title gore, the sentence structure barely makes sense too. Unwinding the journalistic word order and even correcting for the missing word “report” and the chilli misspelling, it basically says

Autopsy was conducted on a teen who had a tortilla, and it[s report] says: “He died of high chil[li] consumption and had a heart defect.”

The logic is technically correct but the following bizzare statements are suggested (not implied):

  • If you are a teen and eat a tortilla, a doctor may decide you need an autopsy. Prevention first, amirite?
  • The cause of death of the teen in question was high chilli consumption, which caused a heart defect, and subsequently the autopsy, either of which alone would be enough to kill him.
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So bad it’s good. Personally, I like the description text on the video that makes it seem like the teen who was autopsied is speaking:

An autopsy of a Massachusetts teen who died after participating in a spicy tortilla chip challenge says he died from eating a lot of chile pepper extract, and 14-old Harris Wolobah had a congenital heart defect.

Editorially, it’s a hilarious article. Though, respect to journalists out there. This might be a situation of, “Johnson, I need that tortilla chip death article on my desk in 5 minutes”.

edit: Per the correction in the article, I guess AP style guidelines dictate ‘chile’ instead of ‘chili’. It looks super weird to me!

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How hot Thai food is, is somewhat overblown. It’s the hottest regularly served food in the world, but it’s not hotter than some people enjoy. Their “spicy” comes from red and green chili’s, ginger, peppercorn, and garlic. By far, the hottest of that group is the red chili’s, but those are around 200,000 scoville. I can eat those and not break a sweat.

The one chip challenge was a lot hotter than any Thai food. Hotter than any of the other challenge or worlds hottest “x” that I’ve tried (friends and stuff gift me these types of things a lot). I’ve bought a lot of sauces that are hotter than it, and it still didn’t have me wishing for something to drink. My mouth just doesn’t react to capsaicin as much as the average persons.

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2 points

It’s pronounced “thigh food.”

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5 points

You mean like “died of multiple mosquite bites” doesn’t make sense because people live in countries with a lot of mosquitos?

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6 points

I’m not sure what part of my post indicated I might be serious, but I wasn’t. I was just commenting on the title gore with a funny.

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3 points

The words make perfect sense though, the premise is the more ridiculous part

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52 points

As someone who regularly eats 1million+ Scoville chilies and sauces, these chips ain’t nothing to fuck with. It gave me the absolute worst stomach pains I’ve ever had, it was like the flu but worse. There’s gotta be something in those chips that at a level that’s not normal for peppers.

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32 points

Yeah well, this guy was apparently trying to eat a whole country?

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8 points

Boo

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1 point

Yeah!

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5 points

What? Maybe they have inconsistent batches, but I did it with friends and it was fine. Hot, obviously, but nothing that crazy. I was pressured into it and didn’t play to win, so I went straight for bread and juice for a bit and it was fine. Two of my competitive friends were chilling, the spice went away after a few minutes for them, to the point that the challenge of seeing who can go longest without drinking anything was not even about the heat, but just who could go the longest without drinking in general/who got thirsty the normal way first

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I wouldn’t be surprised. To be clear though, the heat I felt in my mouth and face wasn’t really all that much. Just north of a habanero maybe. It was pretty much the damage it did to my insides that got me.

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That’s fair, that was their experience too actually now that I think about it. Maybe all the bread I ate neutralized it, cause I had no issues after the heat passed

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I’ve been getting those stomach pains lately trying to pursue the amount of heat I like in my food. I finally decided I just needed to take a break from spicy food to reset my tolerance.

Though, I was watching the series Superhot, and it seems that the stomach pains are pretty commonly associated with eating a lot of those types of super hot foods. So, I’m guessing it’s just from the sheer amount of capsaicin on those chips. It’s pretty much just capsaicin extract at that point.

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7 points

Maybe, but I eat a lot of stuff that are mostly pure capsaicin and none of them mess up my stomach like that. And with this chip the heat in my mouth wasn’t as bad, but my stomach pain was much worse. That makes me think something else is responsible.

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-9 points

the msg

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4 points

Saw some guy eat like 50 of em on youtube.

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Large doses of capsaicin can increase how the heart squeezes, putting extra pressure on the artery, noted Dr. Syed Haider, a cardiologist at MedStar Washington Hospital Center.

Is it the nerves or the muscles of the heart that have this reaction to capsaicin? And does it only target the heart?

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I don’t think it’s a direct reaction. I think it’s much more likely that capsaicin induces stress and that messes with the heart.

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He tried to eat Chile? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile

This story has been edited to conform to AP style: chile, instead of chili.

WTF???
They actually changed it on purpose to be stupid?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile_(disambiguation)

“Chile may also refer to:

Food

Chile pepper, the spicy fruit of plants in the genus Capsicum”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chili_pepper

“Chili peppers, also spelled chile or chilli”

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If you mean Chili write Chili or Chilli, Chile is a country. Also why did AP feel they needed to change it, when the other spellings are equally correct, and more common.
That’s moronic.

Chile as a spice is also near impossible to search for, you will get exclusively results that are spelled chilli or chili. So why opt for a spelling that in every way is worse?

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Look up red or green Chile, it will show up in any search,and in new Mexico you will get slapped for spelling it chili because chili is Texas beans and meat not the flavorful Chile grown in the region

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From early contact in Central America between Spanish explorers and Aztec folk, local spicy peppers — primarily the jalapeño type — were noted as “chiles”. Other similar fruits were also tagged as “chiles” — a term which had the indigenous sense “hot-to-the-taste.”

‘Chile’ has been used for a lot longer than ‘chili’. If anyone is spelling it wrong, it is you, not them.

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So he died of a heart defect, exacerbated by high capsaicin intake.

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Thank you for fixing the headline! 👍

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