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This is harmful misinformation that can literally lead to people dying from tobacco related disease.

Vaping, while definitely not healthy, is NOWHERE NEAR as unhealthy as smoking tobacco is. Especially when you do it as intended: temporarily for smoking cessation like I added decades to my life by doing.

I smoked for 18 years, the last 10 of which I tried every other smoking cessation method including prescription medicine and substance abuse therapy. They just didn’t work for me.

Vaping did, though. In roughly 6 months I went from smoking a pack or two a day (depending on stress levels and alcohol intake) to neither smoking nor vaping at all and I haven’t for over 3 years.

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I think the main problem is that the companies selling vapes and related products are not really targeting users who are quitting smoking. Obviously there is less money in temporary users. They are targeting people who will keep smoking, usually because it is “cool” and especially teenagers who are a good target for “cool” and can be customers for a long time.

So yes, if you are using it temporarily ease off nicotine it is great and we should keep vapes available for these people as medical devices. However we should try to reduce the damage that vapes are doing to other people. How strongly we should do this is obviously controversial. Personally I would focus on education and personal choice, but there is a strong argument to be more forceful.

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If it can help people to quit smoking, I’m all for it. But I hope eventually they get to quit vaping too so they at least won’t have any of the harmfull effects of those.

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If it can help people to quit smoking, I’m all for it.

That’s literally what it was invented for and 90%+ of what it’s used for today.

But I hope eventually they get to quit vaping too so they at least won’t have any of the harmfull effects of those.

Again, that’s all it was ever designed for.

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That’s literally what it was invented for and 90%+ of what it’s used for today

Idk where you live, but in middle and eastern europe it’s mainly used as a cigarette replacement (especially by teenagers because they’re harder to detect)

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Is that 90%+ what you feel or can you provide a profound statistic for that? Not to offend you, but that seems rather unlikely to me. This study reports about 20% of high school students using e cigarettes in 2020. It would be very suprising if these kids tried to quit smoking cigarettes

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That’s not what it’s being used for 90% of the time. It is seen as a healthy alternative to smoking. Sadly, we cannot confirm if it’s actually healthier since there have not been a lot of long term studies yet.

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1 point

Vaping has been around for nearly 15 years now and there aren’t any known harmful effects.

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41 points

it’s healthier

It’s less damaging.

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4 points

Less leathal.

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36 points

It is healthier than cigarettes. Anyone who has smoked and vaped a lot can tell the difference in the damage that it’s causing your body. You don’t need a scientific study to tell you that not coughing for two hours every morning is better for you.

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28 points

Don’t vape, but if you’re going to pick up an addictive habit pick up vaping instead of cigarettes/drinking/gacha games. Much less hazardous to your health.

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4 points

How did you even get to gacha games over just gambling in general

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3 points

Write what you know, I suppose.

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unfortunately vaping is causing cancer which again unfortunately kill you faster than smoking

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That’s literally the opposite of the truth.

Smoking tobacco is the world’s number one lifestyle cause of premature deaths in general and cancer in particular.

Meanwhile, there’s no credible evidence that vaping causes cancer at all, let alone at the extreme rate that tobacco smoking does.

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13 points

LOL, based on which study?

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Same goes for the first claim, right? Both commenters made a statement: One said it’s healthier the other said it’s causing cancer, neither has a source.

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more time are need for the side effects of vaping to be better understood but it ain’t safer than smoking. actually there are other diseases related to vaping than the traditional smoking.here is the article https://thancguide.org/2020/08/the-journey/patients-journey/how-is-vaping-connected-to-oral-cancer/

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Only actual study I have ever seen that even posits a reasonable way that vaping increases your risk of cancer is if you’re using shitty burnt out coils or overamping and basically inhaling atomized metals from the coil.

Basically its the equivalent of smoking a cigarette down to the filter.

It is not hard to keep your tank mostly full and swap out coils in a timely manner these days. Coil design, amount of electricity used and the juice itself have all changed to make it a lot more difficult for the burning up and inhaling your coil situation to happen.

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Yeah, they torched a CE4 cartridge at over 5V for 90 seconds with no airflow.

Of course it’s going to produce harmful chemicals when it’s literally on fire.

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8 points

Fuck off, tobacco troll.

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