https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats

First time this happens since a few months

46 points

I’ll never stop complaining about Y axis that don’t start at zero.

If that means the change isn’t noticable, then the change isn’t noticable.

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I’ll never stop complaining about Y axis that don’t start at zero.

If that means the change isn’t noticable, then the change isn’t noticable.

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Yeah when I showed the cop the graph of my speed before getting in my car to be 67000mph (speed of the earth around the sun) to 67080mphwhen I was driving it he couldn’t see the difference so I didn’t get the ticket.

Or sometimes choosing a common-sense reference makes sense.

Which isn’t to say THIS one does, it doesn’t, but the absolutism of “it’s nerf or nothing” is a tad extreme.

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16 points

Well, it does make sense, doesn’t it?

What we’re interested in is not the number of users, but the trends: whether the number is increasing or decreasing over time. Starting the axis at 0 would not be useful in this regard, as the trend would be almost completely obscured.

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2 points

For something like that, you need a special graph, and I forget the name because no one uses it.

Y axis is “percent growth” and the X axis isn’t at the bottom, it’s in the middle.

Like, the only way I can describe it is a line graph because it technically is, but there’s some name done it.

Capitalism doesn’t like it tho, because there’s “red numbers” and red numbers scare investors

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If the goal is to visualize growth trends, I don’t think raw user counts are the correct value to track on the Y-axis at all. That’s where my head was at when I said it doesn’t make sense. Abusing the Y-axis to try and coax data out in this case is just a symptom of having the wrong measure.

Daily new users. Percent user growth.

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And pie charts with more than 3 segments

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People have to be willing to give things a try, so I think it will definitely grow. I was never a Reddit user, I tried this on a whim, just to try and have conversations with different people. The one good thing is that there are many functional apps, and you will only see things you are interested in, and when you don’t, you down vote it.

But ultimately it’s still the same echo chamber that all social media is, but without ads.

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All social media, and irl too, has biases. As we do ofc - e.g. we linux Linux, especially Arch btw:-P - but it seems to me that the Fediverse is fundamentally different, b/c of the nature of consent.

On Facebook, YouTube, Twitter/X, and Reddit now that it is acting more like the former, ThE aLgOrItHm makes choices for you, whereas here if you want to create an echo chamber, you have to put in a LOT of effort to ensure that you are never exposed to anything that you would disagree with.

For one thing, you would have to subscribe to communities first, and those would have to have enough content to hold your interest, which means a continual search for more of such communities. Scrolling through the All feed would absolutely be prohibited if you wanted to make an echo chamber for yourself.

Again, literally every social media platform has biases, but here those do not rise to the level of “echo chamber”, imho? I do concede that it is not entirely unlike one of those, and yet on the spectrum, aren’t we far less than most other common platforms?

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I think it’s really easy to make an echo chamber here, make a community and only follow said community? I enjoy Lemmy, because look,we are having legitimate conversations, but some posts I have come across - it’s like no conversation, just putting down an opposite point of view.

Me personally, I do my best to try and avoid the political stuff, but even that is difficult at times.

But yes, subscribe to the communities and if the content is there, great, if not, make some or help promote it.

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Okay so it is theoretically possible but is it plausible that this could be a common use-case?

Anyway, you said “it’s still the same echo chamber that all social media is” - and that statement goes far beyond using the Fediverse as an echo chamber to say that it is that way for everyone (further implication: all the time). i.e. the most command-language interpretation of your words would be that they meant that that tiny little theoretical possibility is what this place is, therefore I wanted to point out that there is so much more to consider, e.g. there are other ways to use it.

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41 points

Don’t downvote stuff just because you’re not interested in it! There’s no algorithm you’re training, you’re just being rude to people.

Downvotes should be for worthless content and people being dicks.

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0 points

I agree - no algorithm - but if someone is posting 💩 then it’s 💩 they get. Hey if I post 💩 I would fully expect that. Lol

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I run many small communities and it kills me when people from “all” downvote stuff.

If you don’t care about the topic, block the community or skip the posts

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6 points

Correct. If you don’t like the content in the community, then why be there? Just join things that interest you, no need to be a 💩

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-9 points

so downvote most things on lemmy then?

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2 points

Ironically your comment is the only one I’ve seen in this post that qualifies.

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I’ve found I’ve been blocked on world news for posting comments againts fascist ideas. I’ve been shadow banned from world news for posting comprehensive evidence of china’s crimes against humans aka their concentration camps. It wasn’t opinion i linked to studies, and it wasn’t inflammatory. My comments were removed and now i can’t like or comment.

It’s really disturbing ngl. I mean reddit was trash too but i expected some freedom of information here.

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I linked to a lot of other studies im a separate comment too share that if we’re being transparent

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There have been many times I’ve been blocked by subreddits just for posting an opinion that the moderators disagreed with. Moderators have way too much control over the website.

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Not really any different on lemmy, sadly

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4 points

At least modlogs are public, so people can call them out about it

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8 points

Already mentioned below, but for better visibility: !world@lemmy.world has better moderation.

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13 points

For reference:

He linked https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps

That’s not allowed on lemmy.ml

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Why are you attacking somebody who’s backing you up? Sheesh

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What? If you have context, let us know. I just posted what I found on the modlog over there.

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9 points

Lemmy.ml and world news, name a more iconic duo

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2 points

Kind of sad how many communities are on .ml. Would like to block the entire server but lose too much content.

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New person here. What isn’t allowed on Lemmy.ml? The linking of wikipedia?

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Anything that speaks poorly of China, especially Wikipedia.

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Was it the .ml or the .world instance? I had comments deleted for “misinformation” on .ml. It’s why I migrated away from .ml because it was only a matter of time before my account was banned.

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it was.ML yes .

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7 points

That makes sense there. A lot of marxist leninist crazies there.

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Yeah, I just blocked the .ml worldnews community. It isn’t worth the effort trying to discuss politics with them. The .world instance has been fine for me so far.

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.ml is run by tankies. There’s no freedom of ideas or speech on that server.

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You’ll probably be happier at !world@lemmy.world instead.

I generally avoid communities on lemmy.ml where there are options elsewhere.

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Wait…people on Lemmy.ml can ban your account site wide if you’re not home to lemmy.ml? I don’t know the right word for it. But I log into Lemmy.world. You’re saying if I comment on a topic on a Lemmy.ml instance, the Lemmy.ml mods can ban the whole account site wide?

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I just found out Lemmy is blocking and removing users for having varied political opinions that don’t line up with their forceful left ideals. So I’m out. This was a waste of time.

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This is true but I’ve found I’ve been blocked on world news for posting comments againts fascist ideas. I’ve been shadow banned from world news for posting comprehensive evidence of china’s crimes against humans aka their concentration camps. It wasn’t opinion i linked to studies, and it wasn’t inflammatory. My comments were removed and now i can’t like or comment.

It’s really disturbing ngl.

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Thank you so much for commenting this. I thought I was going crazy. World News seems to be the culprit. It isn’t fair to the users to deny information. I think I’m going to leave, it is too disturbing. I don’t need this.

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Yeah i just blocked that community, but really shit we have dickheads like this ruining lemmy with arbitrary censorship.

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I would suggest rather than entirely leaving the Threadiverse, just leaving that community and joining the !world@lemmy.world community.

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Interesting – me too. OP misunderstood you and thought you’re a conservative. lol

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Your situation is different from that of the person to whom you are replying. SeveralAnts is upset that eight copy-paste comments of theirs were removed by a mod from one comment section on !worldnews, each containing the exact same misinformation which implied that Mexican drug cartels had 37 presidential candidates assassinated in order to leave one lone candidate, a Jewish leftist scientist, as the cartels’ preferred candidate. This is a lie. While a few dozen Mexican politicians have been assassinated this election cycle, none of them were presidential candidates.

What SeveralAnts is upset about is that their attempts at spreading lies in order to promote their anti-leftist agenda failed. To that, I say good fucking riddance. Go back to Twixxer.

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10 points

What Lemmy? Lemmy is not a central authority.

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Can you say where you got this idea? I see a lot of conservative opinions considering the entire idea behind this platform was conceived and executed by far-leftists.

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Isn’t !conservative@lemm.ee still going well?

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SeveralAnts is upset that eight copy-paste comments of theirs were removed by a mod from one comment section on !worldnews, each containing the exact same misinformation which implied that Mexican drug cartels had 37 presidential candidates assassinated in order to leave one lone candidate, a Jewish leftist scientist, as the cartels’ preferred candidate. This is a lie. While a few dozen Mexican politicians have been assassinated this election cycle, none of them were presidential candidates.

What SeveralAnts is upset about is that their attempts at spreading lies in order to promote their anti-leftist agenda failed. To that, I say to them good fucking riddance. Go back to Twixxer.

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6 points

Couldn’t you just move to another lemmy instance? or host your own?

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22 points

Switch instances?

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Would it be much better do you think? I’ve heard others are worse, but I am not sure of them all. I can look into it. I just want people to be able to have open, civil conversations without being silenced by biased mods.

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If you have an issue with a given community, find or start an alternative one on another instance. If you have an issue with how your instance deals with anyone, sign up for a different instance.

I urge you to consider this before giving up on Lemmy entirely, it’s kind of the beauty of the federated services.

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