Most of us probably didn’t see Carter in office. I technically did, but I was barely 3 months old when Reagan took office.

Basically every nation in the world was built on those things - for most of them it just happened long enough ago that we ignore it. That and America imported most of it’s slaves and relocated the locals rather than enslaving or absorbing them.

They’re still mad that Constantinople is called Istanbul.

Also, why the fuck does this meme have to be about black people

Because its not a meme, but an opinion from a person who shared his personal thoughts on the internet.

Not everything becomes a meme by screenshoting.

Not to mention that many black people are also more than willing to overlook crimes as long as it’s someone famous; see the OJ trials, R. Kelly, Drake, the list goes on.

So maybe it’s not a race thing, but just a shitty humanity thing?

The US is systematically racist, whereas we Finns for instance — at least in comparison — aren’t as much, but I’d bet there’s a lot more casual racism where I live than in any decently sized city in the US.

You seem to be (purposefully) construing “the US is a racist country” as “the US is the most racist country”. Racism does exist in other countries, and gets very bad in other countries as well, but the US is still fundamentally a racist country that pours a lot of resources into working against ethnic and racial minorities.

“White people would never let a black felon be president” is the point here because it constrasts with the current situation, which is “white people are letting a white felon be president” (at least it’s a very real possibility). It’s pointing out the discriminatory behaviours/thoughts persistent in American society, a felon being black is given significantly less leniency than a felon being white, and in general a black person is treated far worse and given far more obstacles than a white person for the same reasons. Especially by the majority racial demographic (white people). Any black candidate in Trump’s position would be completely ruined and practically out of the race already, not celebrated by half the country.

Dude Obama isn’t that strange to me. He was seriously THE PERFECT “Black Man” and his family was a shining example of a perfect black family.

I dont mean to diminish what having a black man as president for two terms meant for many people around the country, small ripples possibly making it to the farthest reaches of the world. but come on. I’m white and at the time not particularly invested so much and even still I got the impression most of his energy was spent appeasing his peers who did not like him. And LBR that’s gonna be all Republicans and the media outlets they influence , as well as the unique flavor of racist bigot that only a democrat/white person who loves you can provide.

/Drunk ramble thanks

You’re making an assumption that they would have voted for a black candidate in the primaries.

It’s never been a logical route for their thoughts

I’ve seen a few logical routes. I just don’t like where they ended.

“The Road to Serfdom”, “Free to Choose”, “Human Action”, “7 Habits of Highly Effective People”, and “God and Man at Yale” all spell out a coherent and concrete conservative ideology. But where do those thoughts ultimately terminate?

We get to an ecology strip minded to its foundation in pursuit of that next quarter of profit. We get a patriarchal household bordering on the autocratic. We get ethnic micro-states, forever at war with one another over every sleight or perceived grievance or heresy. We get cults of personality who drive self-aggrandized individuals this way and that in pursuit of some reward in the afterlife. We get a police state armed to the teeth lined up in front of a loudspeaker that insists we’re all entitled to unlimited freedom.

The logic is sound, because the axioms are built to inform us that these outcomes are what we want. This is the best of all possible worlds, the most we can ever hope for. And if we are dissatisfied with our lots in life, it is only because we failed in our commitment to pursue the ideology to its logical ends.

If anything, I would argue that modern conservatism is too logical. It is a rigid algorithm that refuses to acknowledge anything outside of its program and initial parameters. Conservatism is the logic of a boulder hurtling down a hill and into a vast sea, all the while telling the folks captured within “This is the natural way of things and could never have been improved in the slightest.”

It is the illogical utopian leftists who are charged with fishing the big rock out of the ocean and trying to push it back up the hill again.

This is why playing the “Gotcha!” game with Republicans doesn’t work, it’s not that they have a flawed understanding of the world (They do, but that’s not the point), it’s that they will not interact with anything that isn’t the conclusion they want.