These might be the good old days. Go outside, feel the grass, say wassup to your neighbors,ā¦ whatever you do that means community, because sh*t might get bad for a while.
I wonder if those folks who cast a protest vote for Jill Stein will be sleeping soundly tonightā¦ I sure hope not. I hope theyāre fucking terrified.
Of course they are sleeping soundly. Theyād literally be marching into the camps convinced they did the right thing.
Isnāt Jill Stein effectively a republican asset at this point? Like not just a spoiler candidate but one actively funded by the right?
Voted PSL, and yah, I am terrified.
The difference is I am also terrified about what will happen with the Democrats in power. About the unlimited slop being handed to the military-industrial complex so they can ship guns to Israel to continue a genocide. About the crackdown on immigrants and refugees. About the global poor being crushed under the bootheels of American-led capitalism.
To support the Democratic party is to actively decide to place less value on the lives of non-Americans, something I simply cannot do. You want to vote for Harris as harm reduction, be my guest. But understand that the problems facing America cannot, and will not, be solved by voting. Voting should be an absolutely minor thing in the totality of your political actions. Join, start, or support a union. Find what mutual aids groups are nearby, and participate. Join protests. Pressure your local politicians. Support your comrades in their direct action campaigns. Build political power that is under your control, not the control of a system invented in the 1700s by a bunch of wealthy white slaveowners.
Voting should be an absolutely minor thing in the totality of your political actions. Join, start, or support a union. Find what mutual aids groups are nearby, and participate. Join protests. Pressure your local politicians. Support your comrades in their direct action campaigns. Build political power that is under your control, not the control of a system invented in the 1700s by a bunch of wealthy white slaveowners.
Totally with you!
Voted PSL, and yah, I am terrified.
Ah, you lost me. You see a problem, but you seem to be unwilling to accept that there are incremental steps to solving that problem, and the first step is to make sure Trump loses this election. If you arenāt doing everything you can to effect that result, you are, to put it simply, fucking up.
To support the Democratic party is to actively decide to place less value on the lives of non-Americans
Netanyahu wants Trump to win, and with good reason. Harris might not have good policy with regards to Israel / Palestine, but Trumpās is indisputably worse, if you arenāt staunchly pro-Israel. Furthermore, Harris is better in pretty much every measurable metric including climate change, where Trumpās āBurn it all downā policy would doom us all.
To be clear, if I was going to be a single issue voter, climate change would be that issue, not foreign policy, because if we fuck that one up, everyone loses.
Itās cool, though - Iām sure the people dying in Gaza if Trump wins will understand that you couldnāt vote for ābetterā because it wasnāt āperfectā. Your 12-16 year plan for change will surely make them feel better about their situation, when Trump is encouraging Israel to do whatever they need to to end the conflict quickly.
If youāre so concerned about 3rd parties being a spoiler, then you must work towards replacing First-past-the-post voting in your state.
With a more representative electoral system, people would be free to vote for those they feel best represent them, with their vote still being counted against the republicans.
State level electoral reform is possible, some states have already done away with FPTP voting, and others are voting on it!
Given how this structural flaw in our voting system can be repaired, and your high level of concern of the spoiler effect, I invite you to my asklemmy post to discuss your new commitment to replacing FPTP voting in your state after the election.
replacing First-past-the-post voting in your state
Yeah, well, incidentally, ranked choice voting was on the ballot in 2020. We had a sign out encouraging people to vote for it, and I talked it up to whomever it would listen when political discourse came up, but it didnāt pass, so here we still are.
I just hope if he loses, itās by a wide margin so thereās no challenge. Just decisive victory and we can all move onā¦.
Donāt underestimate their tactic. For the republican presidential campaign, they will recognize only one of two outcomes: victory, or election tampering/fraud/manipulation. And, the wider the margin of win, the stronger the rhetoric will be.
As long as he loses I think itās mostly good. He currently does not hold the levers of power, and I think as much as his supporters like to play the victim, I think a second loss will lead to evaporating support. Hard to pretend to be a strongman when you look weak
A second loss should be a death knell of the current Republican party. He wonāt transition any of his power to Vance or any other Republicans. He could die and we still would see 10% of the Americans to vote for him in 2028 because his death was just media propaganda as far as they are concerned.
I voted Trump but I completely agree. We need a landslide, even if Harris wins. Anything else gives the bad actors on either side fuel for an already out of control fire.
Sorry, but I just had to take a peek at your profile. You claim to be on an autism spectrum, yet you voted for a man who will - as the first order of business - make your very life extremely miserable.
That is my take. May I ask what is yours?
Iāve never been one to believe fake political fear mongering bullshit. The right does it too. Heās not Hitler. Heās not going to go after disabled people. Itās bullshit lies. Weāre getting more of his first 4 years if he wins.
What we need is to slow down and take everything slowly. Donāt rush and recount and investigate if needed.
If we are being honest I suspect this election will be tight. Letās try not to pull a democrat this time. In 2020 they voted to uphold the election without any recounts because there was a democrat majority in Congress. When you are elected leader it is your job to serve the people. They shouldāve at least looked into Trumps claims even if they were fabricated.
Like. Did people forget how insane everyday was when he was President? Like you never knew what was gonna happen he was always wanting the attention.
Iām just going to keep riding this horse until it fucking dies but the very first thing he did was take everything Obama did during his presidency and throw it out the window, including the pandemic playbook.
That playbook would have given us step by step instructions and reactions to deal with any type of suddenly erupting national pandemic like Ebola or coronavirus.
And because of this, which was by all measures a racially motivated attack on Obama, more than 1 million Americans died in a badly managed pandemic.
Trumpās racism killed a million Americans.
It undoubtedly exacerbated the problem for the entire world and his total kill count is likely much more than that.
How can you let somebody who genocided millions of people through racism sit in the oval office?
Itās a cult. They have people denying COVID ever existed. Heartily rejecting vaccines.
Thereās just too much to list but it only ever makes sense if you take whatever heās doing as right and readjust everyone around him to work does it ever make sense.
The fact that this election is even close is absolutely insane to me.
Itās crazy that the vote is apparently close. Really goes to show how many āaverageā americans have utterly lost any connection to actual reality and have guzzled enough of the kool-aid to believe the weird whacky world of wonders the religious fascists constantly conjure up.
I wonder though, is this ultimately a failure not of the education and internal offices, decades ago? We let schools let people down, leading to them becoming undereducated terrible parents who let their kids down and made them vulnerable to be exploited by republicans and churches and crypto grifters. :(
Thatās not all, probably not even the main one. Itās a major cost of living crisis and impoverishment of average people while companies and the richest get richer. Neither the Ds nor the Rs want to do anything against it, they get their money from there.
The people kinda understand this. But theyāre not intelligent enough to distinguish āactually changing the systemā with ājust saying theyāre gonna change the systemā, like Trump does. Trump is always talking about uprooting the deep state and bringing an āaverage personā(white middle/lower class) perspective to politics, and people just gobble it up and believe it because heās kinda good at talking with conviction.
Of course the misogyny and racism is part of it and an extra, but itās not the main reason at all. For some people it is, of course.
One thing Iāve had to absorb from all this is that the Trump I see is not the Trump they see. Yes their media outlets are lying to them, but my media outlets are also working overtime to turn every comment he makes into a sure sign of goose-stepping fascism right around the corner. His every off color remark, and he has a lot of them, are so amplified by the press I consume that he seems an obvious villain.
I usually donāt āboth sidesā anything, but I do believe that while right wing media distort Trump, so does left wing media, and both contribute to this sense of āwhat can people possibly be thinking, to vote for him?ā Itās because they havenāt been drinking from the same Trump hate firehose as me.
Honestly, I doubt it. Even if he loses, heās still going to be spewing his mouth diarrhea nonstop and his cult will still believe the shit he says. Also, Iām thinking the Republican party will continue his shit. He created a new Republican party. Theyāll keep pushing candidates who will act and do shit like him since heās been very successful in fooling his base.
Policy-wise it is the same Grand Old Party. The vibe and rhetoric is different, but the policy is mostly all there.
I think if he loses theres a good chance that the people behind him will knock him off.
You know what works better than a hero? A martyr.
I think if he wins heās a dead man.
Heās great for getting elected, but terrible in power, so use him and lose him, blame it on the other side.
No reason to leave such a chaotic idiot in actual charge of anything.
Hope Iām wrong, heās like Hitler, he always gets in his own way.
