These might be the good old days. Go outside, feel the grass, say wassup to your neighbors,… whatever you do that means community, because sh*t might get bad for a while.

219 points

Like. Did people forget how insane everyday was when he was President? Like you never knew what was gonna happen he was always wanting the attention.

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113 points

I’m just going to keep riding this horse until it fucking dies but the very first thing he did was take everything Obama did during his presidency and throw it out the window, including the pandemic playbook.

That playbook would have given us step by step instructions and reactions to deal with any type of suddenly erupting national pandemic like Ebola or coronavirus.

And because of this, which was by all measures a racially motivated attack on Obama, more than 1 million Americans died in a badly managed pandemic.

Trump’s racism killed a million Americans.

It undoubtedly exacerbated the problem for the entire world and his total kill count is likely much more than that.

How can you let somebody who genocided millions of people through racism sit in the oval office?

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54 points

It’s a cult. They have people denying COVID ever existed. Heartily rejecting vaccines.

There’s just too much to list but it only ever makes sense if you take whatever he’s doing as right and readjust everyone around him to work does it ever make sense.

The fact that this election is even close is absolutely insane to me.

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7 points

Se simply by popular vote because people are supporting that shit, knowingly or unknowingly

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3 points

Well maybe if HARRIS killed Millions of Americans SHE could have WON this Election!

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48 points

It’s crazy that the vote is apparently close. Really goes to show how many “average” americans have utterly lost any connection to actual reality and have guzzled enough of the kool-aid to believe the weird whacky world of wonders the religious fascists constantly conjure up.

I wonder though, is this ultimately a failure not of the education and internal offices, decades ago? We let schools let people down, leading to them becoming undereducated terrible parents who let their kids down and made them vulnerable to be exploited by republicans and churches and crypto grifters. :(

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19 points

Racism and misogyny. That is all it is.

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18 points

Large part of the country was built on that foundation. Shocking how proud of it they are.

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8 points

And propaganda. LOTS of propaganda.

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That’s not all, probably not even the main one. It’s a major cost of living crisis and impoverishment of average people while companies and the richest get richer. Neither the Ds nor the Rs want to do anything against it, they get their money from there.

The people kinda understand this. But they’re not intelligent enough to distinguish “actually changing the system” with “just saying they’re gonna change the system”, like Trump does. Trump is always talking about uprooting the deep state and bringing an “average person”(white middle/lower class) perspective to politics, and people just gobble it up and believe it because he’s kinda good at talking with conviction.

Of course the misogyny and racism is part of it and an extra, but it’s not the main reason at all. For some people it is, of course.

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3 points

That’s a really black and white way to look at it. These are complex issues. Any attempt to find a simple explanation to them is by definition going to be oversimplifying it massively.

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4 points

Dont take polls so seriously. Even pollsters know that they have no idea how accurate they might be.

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2 points

Turns out it wasn’t close at all :(

As recently as yesterday morning I had people in my social feeds posting pictures of themselves voting and “excited to witness our first female president!” assuming a Harris victory. What a shocker.

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exactly what i was thinking about. it was such a tense and shameful period.

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15 points

I woke up every day worried that we’d nuked Spain overnight.

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3 points

“There’s a horse. In the hospital.

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One thing I’ve had to absorb from all this is that the Trump I see is not the Trump they see. Yes their media outlets are lying to them, but my media outlets are also working overtime to turn every comment he makes into a sure sign of goose-stepping fascism right around the corner. His every off color remark, and he has a lot of them, are so amplified by the press I consume that he seems an obvious villain.

I usually don’t “both sides” anything, but I do believe that while right wing media distort Trump, so does left wing media, and both contribute to this sense of “what can people possibly be thinking, to vote for him?” It’s because they haven’t been drinking from the same Trump hate firehose as me.

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-1 points

Yes.

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-6 points

Just as insane as it is today if you ask me

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171 points

I just hope if he loses, it’s by a wide margin so there’s no challenge. Just decisive victory and we can all move on….

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145 points

Don’t underestimate their tactic. For the republican presidential campaign, they will recognize only one of two outcomes: victory, or election tampering/fraud/manipulation. And, the wider the margin of win, the stronger the rhetoric will be.

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15 points

Trump insisted he won the popular vote in 2016. That was him setting this whole thing up.

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57 points

As long as he loses I think it’s mostly good. He currently does not hold the levers of power, and I think as much as his supporters like to play the victim, I think a second loss will lead to evaporating support. Hard to pretend to be a strongman when you look weak

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49 points

A second loss should be a death knell of the current Republican party. He won’t transition any of his power to Vance or any other Republicans. He could die and we still would see 10% of the Americans to vote for him in 2028 because his death was just media propaganda as far as they are concerned.

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28 points

Stop teasing me with best case scenarios.

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4 points

I can easily see the party fracture, Republicans and MAGA. If they do split it may be a while before they come back into power.

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3 points

10%? Try 25%-30%

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His rallies have fizzled and I suspect this year (unlike 2016) a lot of these attendees were paid for their attendance, hence the common early exodus we have seen from his “supporters”.

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24 points

Expect the challenge. I’ve been watching the usual suspects on Twitter, they’re completely bwashed into thinking there’s only one possible outcome, and if it goes against them it means there’s been election fraud. They’re already calling it a landslide.

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11 points

Trump will challenge no matter what the margin is, if he loses. He will never concede because he’s a narcissistic loser and his moron followers will blindly do his bidding, especially on the next January 6.

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8 points

This, after ten years of this orange baboon dominating the headlines and flinging shit everywhere I’m ready for it to end.

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2 points

I hoped for his removal.

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1 point

Tbh I’m honestly kinda surprised that electoral fuckery wasn’t even needed.

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0 points

If we are being honest I suspect this election will be tight. Let’s try not to pull a democrat this time. In 2020 they voted to uphold the election without any recounts because there was a democrat majority in Congress. When you are elected leader it is your job to serve the people. They should’ve at least looked into Trumps claims even if they were fabricated.

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8 points

They did… and found nothing except an occasional republican fraud. The facts don’t matter to facists.

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2 points

They should’ve at least looked into Trumps claims even if they were fabricated.

to be clear, trump has made 10x the amount of public claims, privately, every single one was either incredibly illegal. Or fucking wrong. Not a single one was correct.

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-51 points

I voted Trump but I completely agree. We need a landslide, even if Harris wins. Anything else gives the bad actors on either side fuel for an already out of control fire.

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23 points

Sorry, but I just had to take a peek at your profile. You claim to be on an autism spectrum, yet you voted for a man who will - as the first order of business - make your very life extremely miserable.

That is my take. May I ask what is yours?

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-17 points

I’ve never been one to believe fake political fear mongering bullshit. The right does it too. He’s not Hitler. He’s not going to go after disabled people. It’s bullshit lies. We’re getting more of his first 4 years if he wins.

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12 points

bOTh SiDEs 🙄

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2 points

What we need is to slow down and take everything slowly. Don’t rush and recount and investigate if needed.

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-1 points

I agree with that.

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115 points

as an european, i am watching in absolute shock. i really dont understand how HALF the USA can still vote for this Chicken Nugget of a person.

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52 points

Some people only have information from one side of the story. If Trump wins, he will likely try to mimic what both Putin and Orbán did with the media.

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-6 points

Wait, you think the US has had independent media at any time?

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4 points

It will have even less so, but the only “bad media” will be the ones that doesn’t use “trans groomers” and “illegal migrants” in their headlines…

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23 points

While you’re mostly right, it isn’t really half because we have this fun thing called the electoral college, that likes to make Republicans win.

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36 points

Well and so far the popular vote is more red then blue. I think the USA will get the government the voters deserve.

Here’s hoping the rest of the world can not get pulled down.

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17 points

I’m someone smack in the middle of a liberal city in an always blue state, I don’t know what else there is for me to do. I’ve attempted helping educate and getting people to vote in other states who normally choose not to, I’ve voted in every election down to local boards and try to know who I’m voting for. Locally, we had a lot of successes so far this election in our state…but that won’t help much if, y’know, fascism.

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33 points

It’s not even close to half. Republicans are a quarter to a third of the country.

It’s voter suppression and Democrats being the biggest possible fuckups they could be at every fucking opportunity.

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You could watch the reactionism ramp up as they slipped into the minority during Clinton. White men struggling to deal with the loss of their relevance has basically been the story of American politics since.

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1 point

Americans love chicken nuggets, that is why

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99 points

As a person from Europe, who’s is living next to Ukraine, who’s girlfriend is ukranian, who’s many friends are Ukrainian, who’s many friends died due to that terrorist state: If you were eligible to vote in the US and didn’t, fuck you.

Any vote that didn’t go to Kamala, is a vote for fascism, a vote to accelerate and finish the genocide of palestine, a vote to cease support for Ukraine and a vote to help terrorists in ruzzia. If you support any of that, Fuck. You.

But I know my ukranian brothers, they will not surrender. Even if you selfish American pricks don’t support them. They will fight until they can’t fight anymore, and then they will still fight.

Unlike you, they are brave. They are heroes. They know whats fucking right.

And frankly, for all terrible things coming to the US, if you didnt vote, you deserve them all.

If you are from the LGBTQ+ community, not white or a woman, and you didn’t vote, you have just commited suicide.

I will still support Ukraine, financially. Its not much but I don’t care. And if its not enough and the worst comes, I am ready to die to save my brothers, just like my people did in the past.

I am willing to do my part, if you didn’t vote, you didnt. So one, last fuck you.

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I didn’t vote because the lack of domestic violence protections in my state mean that I have been working 7 am - 9 pm every day for the past two weeks. I live in Oklahoma, so voting is pissing in the ocean. There’s a good chance I’ll be murdered or arrested for existing in the next year!

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2 points

You sure showed them!!

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What about what I wrote made that come across as a choice? I haven’t had time to clean the puke that’s been festering in my bathroom for weeks. I don’t have time to do the dishes. I work and work and work, and it is killing me. I would have loved to have had the time to stand in line and vote, if just for the break.

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Oh, well good Palestinians and Ukrainians (and afterwards likely many other Europeans) will be dying in the masses. You could’ve had problems faking a sick leave.

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I work for a charter school, which means I have no sick leave. I also tutor, and don’t get paid if I don’t tutor. I’ve been working usually 8 am to 9 pm for about the past three months.

I also live in the only state that’s counties are 100% red. Part of the reason that I work so much is that there are no legal protections for my employment, housing, or even just discrimination in divorce court ❤️ I’m hopelessly in debt and genuinely terrified for my life, because I do a lot of work with children in rural areas and a cop could very easily rape and murder a transgender man with no consequences out there.

I do deeply care about what is happening in Palestine and Ukraine; my vote in a state which doesn’t recognize me as a human being doesn’t usually matter anyway.

Fun story - in high school, I did a lot of volunteering for a city council run in my city. The person running was a lesbian - she wasn’t out publicly - but it was pretty important to me after a kid at my high school killed himself after a horrific city council meeting over a pride month proclamation. We worked our asses off, the opponent barely campaigned and was fucking unhinged.

The day before the election, he sent out an illegal flyer. It said something like “sex, lies, and we wish we had a videotape!” They outed her the day before, and she lost.

I’ve knocked a lot of doors in my life. I can tell you confidently that my vote will never matter in Oklahoma, just like my personhood doesn’t. I’m sorry I didn’t perform my civic duty, but I’m working on some of those earlier levels of Maslow’s needs right now.

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92 points

NYT is calling it for Trump. America as we know it, may be over.

The war in Ukraine is about to end, with Russia probably getting everything they want, NATO might disband, China likely takes Taiwan, 100 years of authoritarianism and tyranny may be upon us after Trump truly consolidates powers, and nukes the Federal government.

I fucking wish I was being hyperbolic.

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32 points

Nah, we’re gonna balkanize sooner or later. Economy is fucked beyond fucked. (Thank you Reagan) It won’t be able to keep going. Especially not with republicans at the tiller. The end of the US will be the same as every other empire. But with nukes.

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-15 points

Why Reagan? Who moved all the manufacturing to china and built up China?

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46 points

Stagnant wages, weakened unions, at-will employment, low corporate taxes, etc. All Reaganomics. Supply side economics. Basically destroyed the economic powerhouse that won the Cold War. It’s still a goliath, but instead of an immovable industrial bullwark its all debt driven gambling now. Speculation and financialization.

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7 points

100 years of tyranny is hyperbolic. Climate change will kill us before then

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America as we know it, may be over

Stop. I can only get so hard

The war in Ukraine is about to end

Damn, if only we had listened to the people calling for a negotiated peace since the first moment instead of calling them Putin bots…

NATO might disband

As a western European, I fucking wish, but you’re too hopeful for that. NATO is exclusively a force for evil, and the only interventions that it’s carried out are the bombing of Yugoslavia and the bombing of Libya, the latter resulting in a decade of civil wars that destroyed the formerly most prosperous country in Africa. Extraofficially (not technically NATO), also the invasion of Iraq. How is literally any of that good.

100 years of authoritarianism

The US has never been anything different from that. It’s based on the genocide of natives, on slavery of imported Africans, and the decisions made at the government are consistently against the will and the interests of the majority.

Down with the US empire

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-88 points

I like the part about Ukraine. Also don’t care about Taiwan.
But kinda wish democracy maintains in us.

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23 points

You won’t care about Taiwan until your iPhone costs $3000, then you might realize it was worth defending

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9 points

Most American comment, talk about the end of democracy for millions of people and death of thousands, worry about the price of their iphone

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I don’t use Phones. Besides - they just gonna move chip making to us in that case.

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