“Own when you lose”? Bitch, we remember Jan 6th. Nevermind Obama.
We all rallied behind Clinton.
(I read the Monica Lewinsky thing was only found when they were searching something else desperately trying to find something to impeach him on. Because Nixon was impeached.)
There’s bombing the pharma plant in Sudan that killed 10,000 and an unknown number of downstream people due to lack of medicine, there was the sanctions on Iraq, estimated to have killed 1 million, mostly children, the acceleration of Israeli settlements, dropping cluster bombs on Yugoslavia, etc all right there.
But republicans only issue with those crimes is that Clinton didn’t kill enough foreigners.
I live on the opposite side of the world and even I remember when Obama wore a fucking tan suit once more than 10 years ago because Republicans threw such a big tantrum over it.
But what about that elitist Dijon mustard he put on his hamburger? That was a real travesty.
They freaked out because of the choice of leaf in his salad! (Arugula) That obviously makes him the Antichrist.
That’s such a perfect microcosm of how unabashedly childish they are. I get that most of them are probably racist but HOW can you POSSIBLY care about someone wearing a tan suit? If I was Obama I would have worn it every day for a month just to spite them. It’s the same as when they shat their pants when AOC got like a $300 hair treatment or something. It pisses me off so much.
We were still talking about Obama’s birth certificate years after inauguration. So yeah, that’s not really a thing.
We should all get behind the sitting president regardless of party, but I don’t think that has ever happened…
I’m not honestly sure that we should. Sometimes supporting and wanting what’s best for the country means earnestly hoping the president utterly fails.
I sincerely hope this trump administration accomplishes less than they did last time, ideally nothing.
The likelihood of a person correctly opining on the president is 50/50. Effectively, there’s no benefit to piling on to the mass of muted dissent or agreement.
There’s a difference between screaming into the echo chamber and support.
And in any case, I would disagree that we should just not talk about politics. If nothing else, there doesn’t have to be a greater benefit to calling the president a shitheel for it to be worth doing if you think that.
The likelihood of a person correctly opining on the president is 50/50.
https://econ.video/2017/10/15/corner-gas-a-riot-is-not-5050/
(I am annoyed at my inability to find a link to just the video clip)
Why? The Trump administration will do good and bad things, and I hope they succeed at the good things (e.g. cutting waste) and fail at the bad things (e.g. cutting important services).
Show them the American people are more than partisan hacks, and maybe they’ll start pretending they’re not partisan hacks.
Horseshit. They are not being honest about clearing government waste. Any talk of reducing government spending without significant cuts to the military is a fable.
Any minor good things they do will be completely overshadowed by the pilfering of the country for a select few.
“Cutting waste”, for a conservative, is to reduce public services. They have spent a very long time putting out the idea that the government must turn a direct profit and pretty much none of them have the barest clue of what an indirect effect is. The more they crush public infrastructure the more space there is for private interests to come in and overcharge for services they don’t even really provide(health insurance, for example).
Nothing they do to streamline, especially with Elon must holding the lever, will be a benefit to the working class and the benefit to the owner class will be a few quarters of profits while they continue to descend into a place where there’s no money left for their customers to buy their products.
There is no good coming.
I want what’s best for the country, specifically the people in it, and the world as a whole.
I hope that trump fails because his stated objectives are abhorrent to common decency, fiscal prudence, and functional governance.
What he calls waste I don’t believe for a second is actually waste. He has done nothing to earn my trust in that or any other regard, and so I don’t. Certainly not enough to trust them with something as broad as “waste”, if the fools who think that any scientific research they don’t see the point of is “waste” like so many of the examples have been.
Listening and judging a politician based on their words and actions isn’t being “partisan”. The electorate can’t even be “partisan hacks”, they’re the one’s whose interests and opinions are supposed to be being represented.
It’s not up to the American people to live up to the expectations of politicians. It’s literally a politicians entire job to live up to ours, and do things that benefit us. If the politicians goal is contrary to that end, I hope they fail.
I’m not gonna wish someone who wants to harm me, my family and my friends luck just so that they might not want to in the future. They need to earn my trust, not the other way around.
If they do nothing for four years and things remain exactly the same as today, I’ll count that as a win. If they yell “psych!” and actually do something good I’ll eat a hat.
Waste, in this case, includes important services first and foremost. Medicare and social security are definitely waste. It’s money wasted on people who aren’t buying any of those expensive things that Musk and Trump are selling.
We were still talking about Obama’s birth certificate years after inauguration.
Was Trump himself not one of the biggest pushers of that bullshit? I seem to remember him using it as part of his campaign when he wasn’t even running against Obama.
You’re absolutely correct. For the longest time, Trump was known as the birther guy because he was constantly making ludicrous, racist, nonsensical claims about it.
Maybe they would care more if approval ratings meant something.
Be vocal about good things the President does, regardless of party affiliation, instead of just pointing out bad things about the opposition party. Trump will do some good things (and surely plenty bad), and showing that the public is watching and cares is a good thing. The same should be true for Biden and whoever comes after Trump.
But no, that’s not happening because partisan BS. That said, I will be pointing out good and bad things the President does, as I have done the last few elections.
I tried to be patriotic and accept him as president in 2016 until it was quickly obvious that he is a traitor to his country.
“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country.”
–Teddy Roosevelt
Every true patriot should stand opposed to trump.
“We” as in Republicans? Absolutely not true.
In my circle, the outspoken Republicans were absolutely convinced that “Hussein Obama” was a radical, socialist, communist, muslim foreigner who had illegally become president because he was the anti-Christ. He was here to kill the babies and white people and he destroyed the country. Practically everything was Obama’s fault such that it sparked the “Thanks, Obama” sarcastic meme. He couldn’t do anything right. Employment numbers down? Obama did it. Employment numbers up? Obama is lying about it, they’re actually down. Osama Bin Laden killed? That makes everything worse, but also, there’s no proof it was actually him.
