White House says order will ‘make America’s showers great again’ and ‘end the Obama-Biden war on water pressure’
“people are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once” as a result of insufficient water pressure
How do US toilets work? It should be independent of water pressure, there is a tank of water that gets prefilled, right?
it is. he’s just full of shit. no one is flushing more than once unless there’s something wrong with their own plumbing. this is a non issue he’s made up
He’s probably clogging his own toilets and instead of blaming his McDiet blames the Obama-Biden Industrial Complex.
He doesn’t blame them personally. He and every GOP politician don’t actually believe most of the propaganda they peddle; excluding regards like MTG and public handjob hooker.
Most of what they say and do is a performance — it’s all part of the conservative cinematic universe — manufactured to manipulate the feefees of the mentally-ill MAGA cult. I’m not saying they aren’t imminently dangerous fascists. I’m saying we shouldn’t entertain the idea that their words mean anything but grift.
It was a complaint about 25 years ago when the first iteration came out. There was a full King of the Hill episode about it. Since then they refined the low flow toilets to be as good as the older style.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J4f0MeoV5pQ&pp=ygUga2luZyBvZiB0aGUgaGlsbCBsb3cgZmxvdyB0b2lsZXQ%3D
Morbidly obese people have giant greasy shits and evi friendly toilets are designed for normal sized shits that contain some amount of fiber. If you weigh 300 lbs and only eat cheesburgers (like a certain president) it’s possible that you need multiple flushes per shit.
He’s living in the 90’s. This was a big deal to people mid 90’s there is even a Seinfeld episode about illegal high flow shower heads as a b story for Kramer.
People with bad diets make poop that doesn’t flush easily as healthy poop that’s got fiber in it.
Also, Americans always need to invent their own way to do things (cheaper), instead of using the existing European and Japanese toilets. The early ones wouldn’t flush a tissue.
He’s wrong about pressure being inv9lved, but low-flow toilets suck and frequently require multiple flushes.
Bruh. Trump is a fucking liar. Almost every single thing that comes out of his mouth is a lie. Even stuff he doesn’t NEED to lie about.
I have lived in the US my entire life and grew up in abject poverty (think really, really shitty housing infrastructure). I have never seen a toilet that needed to be flushed 10 fucking times. I mean, I know Republicans are completely full of shit but even they can’t cause that to happen. It’s laughable.
When I was 20 years older I used to inhale vapor of devil’s lettuce often, and after some serious cases of munchies I was able to produce some horrendous crap, and even then, with infamous Dutch toilet bowls, three flushes was the worst one.
Yeah but if the lettuce was good, so worth it.
edit: Holy shit I just realized you’re either a time traveler or Benjamin Button.
To give the benefit of the doubt, which I don’t think he deserves, he may be dealing with low-flow toilets which waste a lot less water. And when you eat McDonald’s every day, you probably get backed up pretty badly and maybe overload the toilet on a regular basis.
Most of his toilet problems could probably be solved with a poop knife.
Yeah the actual EO talks about flow rate, which is ironic because using higher flow fixtures decreases the output pressure. Who’s doing the real war on water pressure ahaha
I also can’t see toilet companies being eager to jump on retooling to make more wasteful toilets since they’ve already invested in making ones that work just fine with less water. The safe business bet is assuming efficiency will be back in demand at some point in the future, either because of the next president or because of water shortages.
He has no fucking idea how anything works. Even his own EO has nothing to do with water pressure, it’s about flow rate. The guy is a moron.
Understand this: they’re not his own EOs (well, maybe this one is) - I think by now they’ve got his choke chain short enough that he’s actually getting committee approval before doing stuff, even stuff like this may be his idea, may be his words, but the timing of the EO and the language on paper as well as the press release delivery has all been considered for maximum effect by people who know what the hell happens when stuff like this goes out in the press.
He’s shot off his mouth about the multiple flushes many times in the past. The strategy committee decided that now was the time to use an actual EO of the concept to fill the news cycle with their crap instead of somebody else’s.
When we first started using low flow toilets in I think 1990s they were poorly designed and didn’t flush well. Over half a century we went from 7 gal/flush —> 5–> 3 —> 1.4 and sometime less, but you can’t just use the same design with less water. Modern designs still save water but flush much more effectively.
Similarly early low flow showerheads were poorly designed but you can spend $20 on a 1.2 gal/minute that works really well, assuming you have the water pressure. My house is at the high end of acceptable pressure so I have to use a reducer with that
He probably just likes to watch it go down.
“Flush again, servant!”
“Very well sire. The poo-poo river-horses will shatter their enemy!”
“Oooooooohhhhhhhh! 😃”
American toilets use to hve a great big bowl that would fill with water. Your bum would be a few centimetres from the water and your turd would float around in the pool of water.
Low flow tolietsare similar to Britsh toliets where a column inside the cistern is used to create greater pressure and flush the bowl.
He claimed in 2019 that “people are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times, as opposed to once” as a result of insufficient water pressure.
Uhh, this sounds like a “you” problem, Mr. President. More fiber might help. Anyway, thanks for broadcasting your bowel troubles to the whole world, it sure makes you look strong.
Changing of water pressure won’t do anything for most household toilets except fill the tank faster.
The dumb thing is that the EO is actually about flow rate, but lots of Americans probably don’t understand flow rate and believe that water saving shower heads cause lower pressure.
What’s really ironic is that flow and pressure are inversely proportional, so using a high flow shower head as Trump prefers actually reduces the pressure (force) with which the water comes out.
I had to try to explain this to a right winger expat in Ecuador who couldn’t understand why he couldn’t fix his dribbling shower when his wife was washing dishes by just slapping higher flow fixtures into them. I was unsuccessful.
This is another case of completely misusing words with the implicit “you know what I mean” attached. The truly insincere thing about this method is that because everything it says needs interpretation everything it says is interpreted in the most convenient ways for those with the power to choose which interpretation they prefer.
I started reading your comment and was going to add something about how I always see a deep misunderstanding of Bernoulli’s principle and… Well you have the same misunderstanding.
Increasing pressure, with no other changes, absolutely changes flow rate. Bernoulli’s principle that effectively states as flow increases, pressure decreases (and vice versa) when the source is not changed. If the pressure at the source is increased and the flow rate is the same, then the entire system has more energy. Since the bottleneck is more likely to be the miles of pipes and hundreds of bends, flow rate can’t really be inherently increased but pressure can. I, in no way, am endorsing this EO or the insanity surrounding it.
The proper application of the principle is at the outlet with a steady source. It’s best explained with a multi-setting garden hose. This is because the variable restrictor is exactly at the outlet. You can choose the stream setting which is high velocity but low flow rate - a single stream shoots across the street. You can choose the shower setting which is low velocity but high flow rate - a wide stream that only travels a few feet away. However, if you try to fill a bucket, you’ll likely find they fill at nearly the same rate, allowing for minor differences in nozzle drag and assuming the stream doesn’t cause too much drag (like a 1/8" outlet rather than a pin hole). Why? Because the system energy is the same, say 40psi with ample water supply for a garden hose where the faucet and preceeding piping is the restrictor rather than the outlet. At any point prior to the outlet, the pressure is the same and any setting would fill a very tall column to the same point at which pressure from the column equals pressure form the hose. So yes, realistically, bumping up the pressure would result in greater flow at the outlet, just as enlarging pipes, smoothing bends, and swapping high flow valves.
But this is fucking batshit because the pressure has not been reduced and it’s not like we just have pumps we can tune to any pressure. The primary source is simply the height of water towers - the water towers that have been here for decades already. The most logical explanation I can give is the slow market change to high efficiency devices. But I’m gonna stick to the thought that the believers are retconning their memories. I mean, the fucking Simpsons have a scene where Bart fluctuates the shower temperature with just the sink faucet. Season 12, episode 12, Tennis the Menace, aired 2001.
Your expat acquaintance couldn’t fix the situation because he wasn’t addressing the choke points. So many possibilities. Shitting routing in the house, shitty rerouting after a renovation, mineral deposits inside older pipes, longer routing in modern houses that are bigger with more bathrooms, false memories of the “before times” invented by Trump’s rambling, insufficient infrastructure as neighborhoods expand, or poor delivery system maintenance. Friendly reminder that there is a non-zero number of people buying into this while using household wells.
True, but the force of the water without the flow reducers is much greater. I can take faster, nicer feeling showers when the gpm reducer has been removed from the heads, and the force of the water coming out makes it feel like the pressure is higher, and that’s really all anyone who wants a better shower is after.
Don’t you have those watertanks that fill up and release the water when you press it in america?
There’s no water pressure in my toilet, just gravity.
I often think about how Hank Hill would react to our current political climate. He’s too pure for this shit. I think in the last election he would’ve bit his tongue, voted Democrat, and shivered whenever he thought about it.
from the available info on Krasnov, constipation is the opposite of his problem which requires a towel be put down where he sits.
Enough with the executive orders. Jesus. Is this a national emergency too??
executive orders are better than laws since executive orders have no weight and are easily undone next administration.
They are also very commonly used by most modern presidents, but most of them haven’t had much attention brought to them, while Trump’s basically all have. Mostly because they’re pretty much all stupid and/or controversial.
They’re massively performative and make the plebs and cretins who think politics is WWF theater feel like things are happening. They can be hugely destructive and cause massive repercussions, but they’re not as long-reaching and permanent as actual policies and bills being passed through house and senate.
Less regulation my ass.
i think you’re looking for flow rate, mr president. if you change water pressures across the country, everybody’s o-rings are gunna have a bad time.
source: my house has extremely high water pressure already.
