183 points

Lol no one would’ve told Trump any of that even after he was elected

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91 points

They probably gave him documents on it, but he’s borderline illiterate so he wouldn’t have touched them.

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That’s why he still had classified documents after he left office. He couldn’t figure out what the big red letters “Top Secret” meant.

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23 points

He probably got it confused with “Pop Secret” and thought he stole the national popcorn reserve.

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11 points

If the documents didn’t say his name in the first couple of sentences, he wouldn’t read them.

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53 points

Yeah I’d be pretty sure the team around him would have been very careful about what information they gave him.

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37 points

They went through all this in Independence Day. “Plausible deniability.”

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In order to learn anything about it, Trump would have had to have been curious about it, and since the subject is Area 51 and not Donald Trump you can be certain that it didn’t cross his mind even once.

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93 points

“Why the hell wasn’t I told about this place?”

"Two words Mr. President, ‘plausible deniability.’"

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23 points

First thing I thought of too. Love that movie.

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9 points

It’s just so…entertainy

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4 points

I recognize the quote but I need help, what’s the movie?

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10 points

Independence Day

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Possible what?

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3 points

Plossible deny ability

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1 point

Flossable? These things have teeth?

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85 points

Area 51 is real. Don’t know if there’s any aliens there, but I’m betting not.

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56 points

The Roswell Incident was declassified as well. It was a weather balloon with a microphone attachment that was meant to listen to a certain layer of the atmosphere where nukes are loudest. I don’t have the link as I’m on mobile.

I don’t think the government would deny any extraterrestrial claims by the news during the cold war because it would scare the commies shitless if they thought the United States had alien technology.

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The US government has been caught spreading alien conspiracy theories. They were the ones supplying Paul Bennewitz with his bogus info to muddy the waters on the stealth craft they were working on at the time.

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If I remember the story correctly the balloon was, as you said, to detect nuke detonations. When it crashed the government lied because they didn’t want anyone to know what they were up to.

That method of detection wasn’t very effective anyway, we figured out much more reliable means of detecting nuclear explosions right on the ground using resonance, but it was pretty obvious the government was lying, so of course peoples imaginations went wild with conspiracies and the ufo thing was born.

It was (and still is) a great thing for the US government, it deflects from what’s really going on and keeps the idiots busy chasing bullshit, and the enemies guessing as to what kind of tech they may really have. Toss them a bone once in awhile to keep the frenzy going and you have a reliable means of obfuscation for little to no effort.

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What happened is that a Colonel at the base it was brought to prematurely announced that it was some kind of alien craft, and then 4 hours later they clarified, but the damage was already done.

Of course, that was in '47 and Roswell didn’t become a “thing” until '69, more as a tourism gimmick than anything else.

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Roswell was actually multiple incidents remembered incorrectly iirc

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7droUsVVRsNC3hCXQvd5ph?si=qRPRLKaaQWywq95fubt63Q

Good pod on the topic

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Roswell was actually a turn of the millennium American television show

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8 points

Pretty sure they just work on go-fast shit

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6 points

They used to. They moved that to a different base. 51 is little more than a convenient decoy for lookyloos now.

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4 points

This is actually where they make the $20,000 toilet seats.

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Yeah. Groom lake. Outside of Vegas. Not much to see unless you draw attention by trespassing. So I hear. I drove out there once but didn’t get all that close. Anyway that facility was the base for the CIA A-12 planes, their version of the SR-71 Blackhawk.

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SR-71 *blackbird :)

Now I’m remembering that “fastest things in the sky” copypasta lmao

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2 points

Damn autocorrect lol

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That’s the thing about a lot of these alien conspiracy theories; they’re based on a pretty large nugget of truth in the sense that the government does have secret sites and crash retrieval teams and there are some aerial phenomena that remain unexplained. The thing is that they’re all focused on enemy technology, not aliens, and as for unexplained aerial phenomena, most are explainable, and the relatively few that aren’t are basically a mystery.

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Bros, this is really easy: The US Air Force was developing all sorts of secret stuff during the Cold War, to keep it secret from, you know, the Russians.

When a secret spy balloon crashed in a public place in Roswell, the Air Force didn’t answer any direct questions and when someone asked if it could be aliens, their reply was, “it can be whatever you want!”

Part 2: Everyone forgot all about the whole event for 30 years, because it was completely unremarkable. Then, after the Watergate scandal, everyone was super suspicious of the government, because one conspiracy had just turned out to be true. And one guy got on the radio and was like, “yeah well the government even has aliens, remember Roswell?” And nobody did, so then they retold the story in the most suspicious way possible and he sold a ton of books.

And that’s where aliens come from.

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And that’s where aliens come from.

When a mommy alien and a daddy alien love each other,

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And if we’re being really honest, the government probably doesn’t mind the alien conspiracy theories at all because by having a fake reason to hate the government you’re distracted from the real reasons to hate them. People that focus on the fact that the government might be withholding information about aliens from them have a higher chance of forgetting about the government withholding things like healthcare, food security, student debt relief, public transportation, consumer rights, survivable minimum wages, etc etc.

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8 points

The aliens were using an inflatable probe to monitor Earth’s weather conditions.

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Why can’t they use an inflatable probe to monitor my prostate?

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60 points

It was above his security level.

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20 points

This I can absolutely believe. You really think the entrenched MICC is going to give him access?

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1 point

MIster Chief Collection

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10 points

Correct, Truman was not allowed to know about the Manhattan project until it was already viable and needed to be known.

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Truman became president on April,12 1945. He was given a full briefing on the Manhattan project on April 24,1945. That doesn’t seem like he was being kept in the dark.

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It was one of the most important and costly projects of the war, 12 days is a lifetime during a war quite literally. That’s also ignoring the fact that the vice president was kept in the dark until after FDR died and Truman took office.

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