112 points

In one slice, cut a third off of each apple, and you’re left with 3 portions of 2/3 an apple each

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What’s bothering me is, mathematically that is the answer, but practically the apple is a non uniform shape so you cant really determine where a third of the apple truly is and it has seeds in the middle meaning two of the kieces will have seeds one the one getting the two cut off pieces won’t so its not truly shared equally.

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27 points

“Equal” has a slightly different meaning in fair division problems. It doesn’t mean “the exact same quantity of matter”, so not being able to judge exactly 1/3 of the apple doesn’t super matter (though your seed problem can be solved by cutting diagonally through the apples rather than along one side), but rather, that each person gets a portion they value at least as much as the others; maybe some people are willing to take a smaller piece if it means they have no seeds, maybe some people are going to peel their piece so they care more about having the largest internal volume, maybe some people plan to plant the seeds and so they actually value them, maybe some people only care about having the biggest piece.

In practice, for three people this can take as few as 2 cuts or as many as 6; since there’s two apples and we can do 2 cuts with one stroke here, there is a fair division solution, but it only works if things go perfectly:

The first person cuts the apples into 3 shares they think are of equal value (perhaps they hate apple cores, so they cut one side off both as above)

The second person points out which share(s) they think are the best

The third person takes the share they consider to be most valuable

The second person takes the share they consider to be most valuable

The first person takes the remaining share, which, since they cut, they must consider equal to the other two.

If the second person doesn’t think at least two shares are of equal value, the problem becomes impossible to resolve without more knifeplay.

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7 points

If anyone is interested, there’s this video by Up and Atom that neatly shows the complexity.

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I think that one person can decide where to cut the first apple and another person can independently decide where to cut the second apple, so the problem is actually a little easier. I posted my attempt at a solution as the top-level post. (My solution does assume that all three people have the same preferences.)

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9 points

Yeah. It’s a bad question. Why only one stroke? If you cut the apples into cubes and doled them out equally it’d be a much better and more equal experience. The problem presented is a lie, it’s just a geometry puzzle.

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5 points

If you sliced vertically (still considering thirds) you would get more fair distribution of fruit-meat vs seeds

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I’m sure with some calibrating you could just cut off 1/3 of the edible portion. While the core-containing portions would be heavier, the edible apple weight would be the same. It wouldn’t be easy to do first try though

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3 points

What bothers me is how dangerous that procedure would be

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3 points

Cut the leaf off with the one slice then each person just eats a third of each apple with their teeth.

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39 points

Or cut both of them in half and throw out half an apple.

Didn’t say all of the apple.

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7 points

Flat skull Winnie the Pooh.tiff

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9 points

How do you do that in one slice?

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24 points

Aim for the jugular

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8 points

Line the apples up next to each other, I guess. Sort of like taking a single slice through multiple carrots on the cutting board at once. Harder to do with apples given their shape, but I’d the knife is big enough, or you’re counting a slice as “single continuous motion” then it is probably valid.

I can’t think of any other physical solution that isn’t a joke, so this is the most probable puzzle solution. In a D&D setting I might require a slight of hand check with a very low DC to pull off the single slicing motion.

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6 points

You line up the apple and cut both at the same time

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Cut 2/3 of both apples leaving 2x2/3 segments and 2x 1/segments (2/3 cut in half for those of you who struggle with fractions)

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1 point

I’m american, we would forget fraction entirety if we ever switched to the metric system.

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4 points

gow can you cut a third of each apple in one slice

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14 points

Line them up so only 33% of each apple gets cut when you slice.

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4 points

Stack the apples on top of each other and cut from the top down.

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93 points

Align the two apples so they’re off center to one another. One has 2/3 on the outside to the left, 1/3 to the right, the other 2/3 to the outside to the right, 1/3 to the left.

Bird’s eye view, the single line cutting both apples will leave us with the left 2/3 of the first apple and the right 2/3 of the second, and a third portions made of 2 thirds, or another 2/3 of an apple.

One cut, 2 apples, 3 equal portions.

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54 points

Visualisation.

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35 points
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Easier:

(…|.)

(…|.)

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35 points

Those are some weird looking titties

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16 points

Get yo ass to Mars

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25 points

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5 points

So from what I see here, if I slam the knife down on both other people, I get 2 apples?

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43 points

You could simply murder one of the players

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18 points

You know, that does sound easier than aligning some janky-ass shaped apples just right.

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15 points

Is that not the joke? Am I a psycho now?

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6 points

Not alone, I assumed that was the joke here.

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2 points

In a single stroke? With 1d4 damage?

If you have a wizard in your party, I guess.

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29 points

No need to align them like that. Just place them one behind the other and cut off one third on the side (with a single stroke).

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3 points

But which one is lawful good and which one is chaotic evil?

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13 points

They don’t have to be aligned off center from each other, just as long as you cut a third off of each in one stroke.

Alternatively, one person just stabs one of the others, and the two survivors each get a whole apple.

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8 points

Dumb question, how do you make two apples off center from each other?

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2 points

You’re right that they’re off-center from a first “symmetry line” you have to draw.

So: you place them on your cutting board. Trace an imaginary vertical bird’s eye view that passes by the center of both. Now based on that imaginary line, move both apples so they’re offset 2/3-1/3 from that line in each direction.

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6 points

I thought about this at first but then two people get the core as part of their portion and one doesn’t :(

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7 points

Lay them on the side and cut through them horizontally, everyone gets core

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4 points

Simple solution to that is the cores are a problem for the two people that aren’t in possession of the knife.

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73 points

What the fuck is this single-use knife

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22 points

With forensics being as good as they are now, they’ll probably figure out the knife you used the first time is the same knife you used the second time.

You really can’t have a favourite knife anymore. Gotta dispose of it right away or they’ll work out the pattern without needing to figure out the riddles you left behind at the scene. It’s cheating really, but the only thing you can do to prevent it is by taking the “single-use knife” approach.

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13 points

It’s the kind of knife you buy for your first apartment

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7 points

Dollar Tree knife.

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41 points

What my group will do

Kill one person, yeah we are so dumb :D

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17 points

With one stroke? Does your group only consist of level 1 wizards or is it some kind of legendary knife?

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7 points

That’s a classic critic against D&D if one stroke of knife is deadly IRL it should be in RPG.

That said, 3 players means a GM so just cut in half and you get 4 piece including one for the GM

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3 points

The monk beats both other PCs unconscious and then uses the knife to cut off as much apple as they care to eat.

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1 point

You tie the unlucky member to sacrifice. Maybe one with low fortitude. And use coup de grace. Probably it will die One shot with one stroke. Technically it’s doable ^^

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30 points

Stab a player… We can just reincarnate them after the puzzle

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9 points

This was my vote except for reincarnating. I’m sure one of them deserves it. Probably. Maybe.

Whatever we can find some other fucker to help us in the tavern.

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6 points

I play a cleric in my party. Previously, we’ve been asked to recover and return a certain plot-important NPC who didn’t exactly want to be transported…

We killed him, transported the corpse, handcuffed it, and then raised him at the destination. It’s a lot easier to transport a body than a live half-elf who is actively trying to escape.

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2 points

Did you draw dicks on his face?

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Just say “Why don’t we just use the knife multiple times to cut the apples into quarters so two people get 3/4 of an apple while one gets half an apple? One person gets a quarter apple less than the other two but it’s not a big deal is it?”

Whoever complains about this approach gets stabbed.

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