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I’m sure it’s nothing and everything is fine. Now, who wants to buy some of this Reddit stock? I’ll cut you a special deal so you don’t miss out! … Anyone?

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I was interested in buying a share just to be in for the ride, but then they asked for my real name to be associated with my handle. It’s like they never understood what reddit was about at all.

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Reddit has never been about privacy or anominity. Think of all the celebrity AMAs.

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Who were the specific individuals asking questions in those?

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AMAs weren’t celebrities on Reddit originally my friend, they were real people with interesting jobs or in unusual situations at first.

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Can we please keep this about Rampart.

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You can post on 4chan as anon and prove your identity too

Reddit is (or at least was) psuedo-anonymous. You can easily get identities, and they’re not linked to you

For a lot of people, I’d say most in the early years (at least in my experience), you didn’t share usernames with your friends on the platform… Irl Redditors loved to identify themselves as a Redditor, we shared communities and memes, but only two of my closest friends ever knew my main account

I kept a second account that could potentially be tied to me (more work related stuff), because on my main account I always had the freedom to discard it if I embarrassed myself enough. That knowledge makes me far more likely to hit post instead of discard

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I got a Message offering me to buy too. In the Message it says i need to be a permanent Resident of the US.

Buddy, you had me enter my Country when i created the Account. You know full-well I’m from the EU. Why not just sort me out of the Mailing-list?

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Why not just sort me out of the Mailing-list?

Because that would cost their time instead of yours

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Perhaps you moved from Europe to the States in the interim like I did.

Edit to add: sorry if this came off as snarky, was not my intention. Just wanted to point out that it’s not always so clear-cut. I created my Reddit account in 2008 when I lived in the Netherlands. Then I moved to the US in 2016 and became a citizen in 2019.

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35 points

“We have never made a profit and may never make a profit. Please buy our stock.”

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A special deal? Doesn’t the message basically say “give us your data so you maybe have a chance at buying stock at full price, and be thankful we’re not marking it up”?

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Well, at IPO price. A couple of decades ago, that used to mean it was discounted. Nowadays, it doesn’t, but not everybody knows that.

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10 points

Probably part of some side grift to sell more information to data brokers

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The whole idea is a grift. They are directly appealing to people who largely should not be buying shares due to their financial situation and are a lot less critical of the pretty poor numbers they published than professional exploiters investors will be.

Obviously this is done in hopes of selling more shares and binding users long term, though that will probably just accelerate the enshittification because suddenly the last remaining power users are turned into shareholders instead

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5 points

Free shorts?

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4 points

Can I borrow some stock?

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that would be called “shorting” and it totally is a thing.

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11 points

Look, I’m not trying to short okay? I’m sure Reddit will do great. Just let me borrow your stock and I’ll make sure you have it back in like 6 months or so

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Yeah, the big short is even a movie! One positive i got from hanging around stonks, amc and gme subs was how much i learned about how fucked the stock market is.

Waaaaay more fucked, gamified, and straight up broken than even the most cynical citizen thinks.

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2 points

They actually tweaked the upbote/down vote stuff back then to stop actually showing the true amount of upvotes and down votes, directly. They started fuzzing votes to supposedly help prevent manipulation.

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1 point

The timing DOES seem Auspicious…

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Reddit isn’t dead. There’s plenty of posts and traffic, way more than here. The problem is that that quality has plummeted. Bots posting divisive political shit, bad memes, and toxic commenters. Angry people spurred on by bots and no valuable discussion

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As anything with Reddit, it depends on what you subscribe.

It’s perfectly possible that this person sees the site completely dead. Personally, every time I go there it’s full of interesting comics raised by some bots that keep reposting old things, and really really bad comments, but still plentiful.

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79 points

They made some algorithm changes a bunch of years ago (2015?), and migrated away from the concept of “default subs”. The front page drew from every sub with an algorithm.

TheDonald was very good at understanding and abusing that algorithm, resulting in it overrunning the front page for everyone. They had to tweak it a bunch as a result.

IMO, this resulted in a great homogenization of communities. People participate in communities without really understanding the communities. Why should they? The “community” is just “the Reddit front page”.

As soon as any community gets popular enough to hit the front page, it becomes hive-minded, predictable, and bland.

Lemmy actually has this same structural problem… Evidenced by the fact that as I write this comment, I actually have no clue what community this post is in.

I think Lemmy just hasn’t been overrun w/ bots (yet), isn’t being as heavily invested in by bad faith foreign state actors (yet), and is mostly composed of people who moved from Reddit who want to actively participate in a way to keep it from having that same Reddit “flavour”.

Just my take.

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Omg a little anecdote to add on to your point. I made a post on a news article about how people blindly follow name brands. It was only after a few blindly ehh and some other comments along those lines I realized I was on a blind community thread. Real foot in mouth moment lol. It was taken well enough when I explained my mistake and apologized. Got some good info too about the community.

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As soon as any community gets popular enough to hit the front page, it becomes hive-minded, predictable, and bland.

People participate in communities without really understanding the communities.

Not against you specifically but this is why I don’t tell people about communities anymore. The quality declines the more people participate.

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I don’t think the Donald was abusing the algorithm. It was literally the most popular sub, it was always on the front page because it’s posts were getting massively and constantly upvoted. Changing the algorithm instead of waiting it out or just straight banning it ruined the site.

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I just went there, I also noticed that most of the posts on top of r/all are sub 10K upvotes, most sub 5K. However, when I sorted by Top/Today then I saw there were a lot of posts that were over 30K upvotes. Maybe it’s change in algorithm and how they show posts.

BUT, i went to Top All Time, and all of the posts there were at the earliest from 3 years ago, a lot from 5-7years ago too so it rules out the pandemic effect. Looks like reddit may have indeed passed its prime.

Edit: actually it’s weirder, i can’t access Top This Year. It looks like they scrubbed all the top posts from 2 years ago, so I might be wrong about the activity. But that is still Hella sus.

Yup, top posts last 2 years definitely scrubbed or just excluded from top all time display. Probably to hide all of the protest posts from last year.

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As anything with Reddit, it depends on what you subscribe.

That’s likely the case. r/theoryofreddit is mostly old users, who are emotionally attached enough to the platform to discuss it, and who often stick to smaller communities. It’s practically “the” userbase that Reddit screwed the most with.

(I used to post fairly often there. I’d miss that sub if not for its moronic powerjanny godofatheism “randomly” banning people left and right because he’s an illiterate.)

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27 points

You forgot about the automated dms and emails begging users to buy stock at their IPO to inflate it’s value

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foreal?

elll oh el

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I just got it on an old throwaway account that I forgot to delete. But not as a DM as others, but as an email.

You are receiving this email because a Reddit account, [redacted], is registered to this email address.

And you can be sure that I checked off every box that you let me, so that I wouldnt receive unsolicited mails… By the way, I’m not even eligible for the IPO and you shpuld know it, reddit.

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22 points

Don’t forget reposting like crazy.

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That was literally always the case, and frankly it was not nearly as big a problem as people made it out to be.

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They are weird superficial sensationalized feel-good posts. It’s was a thing before, but now it feels more contrived. Front page feels hollow.

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Bots posting divisive political shit, bad memes, and toxic commenters. Angry people spurred on by bots and no valuable discussion

To be fair, that happens here as well.

There’s a meta problem, of all the public squares being polluted by what you described, to the point where they’re not usable anymore for discussion. Something that screams for legislation, but it’s hardly spoken of.

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4 points

Yeah Reddit is awesome like that, but have you ever tried posting something on lemmygrad by accident?

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Also, the front page is basically broken, so the traffic on the site isn’t being directed to content in the same way it used to be.

Basically, the site was very different when “Hot” was the way most people experienced the front page.

Now it’s… whatever fucking curated bullshit and “Best” which is all just terrible.

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I was initially drawn to Reddit as a place that offered nuanced conversation. I even used to engage with toxic takes if nothing less than to discredit their take. It’s a complete dumpster fire of toxic ass hats now - not worth commenting within as it’s becoming more and more of a conservative echo chamber.

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I feel like Lemmy is getting more argumentative, especially when anything related to the Isreal/Palestine conflict (in that particular case it seems to be consistently people making bad faith arguments on both sides going back and forth)

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147 points

Yes, everything that could possibly be posted and discussed has been done. Humanity has officially run it’s course, that is the only explanation for a reduction in the amount of content on Reddit.

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42 points

I knew it. Wrap it up, we’re going home

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30 points

Well done everyone, it was kinda horrible

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51 points

There were cat memes. It wasn’t all bad.

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9 points

It had its moments

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21 points

Congratulations. You have reached the end of the internet.

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8 points

Finally!

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8 points

Do we turn the tape over and now begin from side B?

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25 points

Suddenly I understand how non-americans feel when Americans discuss world issues.

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7 points

That would be better than the extremely “interesting” future that awaits us

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Yeah i feel like chicken little sometimes just watching other folks going about their business like shits not actually going down right in front of us.

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Tbf our future technologically is pretty wild too, so if you’re in a developed country and rampant inflation hasnt made you homeless, there likely cool extreme changes to go alongside the horrifying ones!

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3 points

*its

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8 points

Monty Python’s Flying Circus!

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Wow, I even hear the music playing in my head when I read that.

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I like how the user claims 2016-2019 as good years. From what I remember, the 2016 election was when reddit started turning to trash with the political astroturfing and right wing trolls making bad faith arguments. When was the crazy with the totally-not-staged crazy doorbell camera videos?

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2016’ish was when the The_Donald started its come up, which absolutely was a negative for the site. 2015 had FatPeopleHate, Even in 2011 they had the jailbait subreddit.

So saying it was ever particularly good is kind of… lmao

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Elections over, now we can ban the_donald. Fucking assholes.

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I don’t think shithead communities are an indication of quality. Lemmy has quite a few despite otherwise having early reddit feelings.

I think the quality of comments is a bigger indicator. Reddit started to feel shit when thought out comments got drowned out by the sea of low effort memes, one liners and other overused references. Lemmy also has those comments but the ratio of quality to shit is much higher.

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I don’t think shithead communities are an indication of quality.

Places like The_Donald and FatPeopleHate didn’t just stay within their little communities. They shat up the rest of reddit, and because their communities were allowed to flourish, they had a base of operations to recruit more shitters from. Once those communities got banned/quarantined, the behavior diminished noticeably, as the community found they weren’t welcome and often simply left.

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I remember a large influx of 4chan users around 2012 or something that seriously diluted the quality of the comments

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36 points

Dear lord 2015/2016 was like the sharp decline after a long slope downward in my opinion. Might be showing my age but peak reddit to me was prior to reddit gold and vote fuzzing.

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For me, the downfall was when Unidan got himself banned. Reddit has never fully recovered .

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I eventually signed up to Reddit in 2011 when it started to become less of the “wild west.” I mean anything could pop up on the front page. 2015 I really got sick of US politics in everything, and I think after the 2016 election, I found out just how many subreddits were controlled and modded by like 4 people. Reddit had a plethora of issues well before most current users even arrived.

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Before I quit, I was using RES to block the power users and their subs. Got back a lot of mental health blocking off all the ragebait/clickbait shit. Politics is unavoidable, but at least I could filter out the grifters only looking to profit from it.

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The most active posts are now bot-created open-ended conversation starters on r/askreddit to stir up activity and give the illusion of a thriving community. The questions are usually very redditer patronizing, and some of them are thinly veiled marketing analysis to create value for future shareholders. they’re often saturated with butt created responses.

As to why the post in question may not still exist? I suspect substantial posts about bot saturation are probably filtered out.

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The true halcyon days were before the Digg migration. Sorry, I know most folks on the site and very likely here too were part of that diaspora but it’s fair to say that Reddit was very different and yes: better before that.

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Wait what. Right wing presence was gradually purged from 2016 onwards. The main change that period is the site having become a hyper American left-wing echo chamber. And the American part is important since leftism in other traditions tend to turn eyes at American progressives

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I always side stepped the whole gamergate thing while it was at it’s height. Something always stank about that affair.

I would say gamergate wasn’t the first battle, but more like a “Southern Strategy” of gaming. Previously, gaming culture was the target of conservatives. I remember Jack Thompson.

As gaming went “mainstream” and gamers aged into the voting range and boomers became less and less swing voters, conservatives started using the same tactics to draw in gamers as neo-nazis used to draw in the punk scene.

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Gamergate and 2016 US Politics go hand-in-hand, as Steve Bannon was an orchestrater of the former as a trial run for the latter.

I’d say I can’t believe everything is shit because of porn-addicted white people on the internet, but historically speaking that’s been the motivation behind almost every fascist movement.

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Gamergate was a breakup rant.

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It started going down hill when Conde Nast bought it.

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We did it guys. We’ve posted everything there is to post and now we can finally rest.

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