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…yet i was told that the biden genocide was somehow worse…cake and eat it shit…

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What a strawman of an argument you’ve created. That was never an argument being made, it was that genocide wouldn’t be any worse because genocide is genocide.

And how is this at all different from any of the strikes Biden agreed on that resulted in mass deaths?

Oh and the cake you’re laughing about? Those are children’s lives. Get some perspective and stop reveling in misery.

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Get some perspective and stop reveling in misery.

Centrists are stubbornly determined to move right from here. Introspection is a threat to that, so they won’t.

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That was never an argument being made

Bullshit. It was absolutely an argument being made. “We kNoW BiDeN sUpPoRtS gEnOcIde; MaYbE tRuMp WiLl Be BeTtEr” (paraphrased) is very much the sort of dumbass rhetoric that was being tossed around and don’t you dare try to gaslight me otherwise!

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Put yourself in the shoe of somebody who lost a relative in Gaza.

Aah that’s right, you can’t. Americans aren’t educated to see foreigners as human at all. The more i talk with you guys the more i realize that

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You’re just mad that trump is implementing centrists’ only policy.

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because genocide is genocide.

That’s dumb. Killing more people is worse than killing fewer.

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It’s more dumb to think killing everyone is any different to killing everyone.

Genocide brings about the death of the whole cultural group.

There is no little or big genocide, it is all genocide.

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That’s awfully disrespectful for the people who lost relatives before Trump got elected.

You’re a salty scumbag and you deserved to lose

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Biden’s help killed more at this time, but Trump should catch up by late summer or early autumn this year. Then we can say Trump killed more than Biden.

But Trumps crimes elsewhere will eclipse this grim milestone , and I doubt most commentators here will remark on that when it happens

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Is there a tally for each president?

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Yes, kind of, if one follows these things enough

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I was told that protest voting would save Gaza, is Gaza saved? /s

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You know who could have saved gaza?

Biden, two years ago.

Scumbag

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I was told that protest voting would save Gaza

Nothing was going to save Gaza. That didn’t mean we needed to continue being complicit. But at least centrists didn’t have to consider abandoning netanyahu.

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Unsupporting the red and blue party is the correct thing to do and what will ultimately lead to a positive change. The duopoly party narrative is holding on a really thin line because everyone is unsatisfied on both sides, in europe third parties win plenty of times.

If you throw your trash out of the window that isn’t going to change world pollution but you don’t do that because we live in a society and everyone is supposed to do his part.

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The way US elections work it’s mathematically impossible to have a viable 3rd party. We can’t just do it like Europe.

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lol. I commented on a post saying that Harris would likely be handling the situation better right now, and I got told by one of the pro-Palestine crazies that they hope my family gets murdered…

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I have to believe the pro-Palestine crazies who call Harris voters Nazis are either Russian trolls or still too ashamed to admit they were conned into voting for Palestine’s complete destruction.

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voting for Palestine’s complete destruction.

Gaza was already destroyed on your boy Biden’s watch.

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Interesting. Weird that Israel is threatening its full destruction now instead of celebrating the fact it happened at least 3 months ago. Those genociders do be crazy.

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And you would understand why if you had any kind of human decency.

People are mourning their dead and you come with your petty domestic political argument? How tone deaf can you be?

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People are mourning their dead

On a Lemmy politics forum? The fuck are you talking about?

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Yeah I didn’t get the whole “murder your family” part

You’re really doing your part yelling at a bunch of internet strangers with no control over the situation. Congrats!

If it’s so easy to fix, what are you doing to make things better?

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You do have control over the situation. You just had elections

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I had conversations with many an accelerationist who supported Trump over Harris on Gaza. Pretty sure they were just full of shit and spreading misinformation.

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I had conversations with many an accelerationist who supported Trump

uh huh, sure you did.

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When people were actively arguing that Dems would be worse than Trump on Gaza they were either stupid or accelerationists. Especially considering these are self proclaimed “leftists” who apparently think Trump will usher in a tankie uprising. Not them of course, social media is full on revolutionary activism so they won’t be doing anything.

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Whatever they call themselves they are not pro-Palestine. I don’t buy it. Maybe they’re anti-Israel, but they ain’t pro-Palestine.

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Harris would have said not to do it while continuing to supply them with weapons.

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Harris would have said she’s doing everything she can to stop this whole breaking federal laws to keep it happening.

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But thank God we stopped Harris right?

Ugh…

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Just like the swift boats crowd.

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Was Harris against what Israel was doing?

I can’t remember her stance.

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No she was not, however there is a difference between someone indifferent to the suffering of others, and someone like Trump who thinks it’s funny

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however there is a difference

There’s not. Condemnations and calls to peace do nothing when the flow of weapons and financial support is left untouched.

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It literally is though. Jesus Christ the level of denial.

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It’s not, though, as Harris wouldn’t have changed much. The US would have supported Israel in this war whoever the president is. You think Israel would have let a Palestinian or an Arabic authority supervise Gaza after they did all the work of destroying it? Harris wouldn’t have put any real pressure on Israel, and based on her campaign it seemed like even the little angry comments every now and then would also disappear.

A country that may have benefited from Harris being president is Lebanon for example, but for Palestine as a whole this was the plan since the beginning.

What you probably meant is this being about the US and it’s unconditional support, not it’s elections.

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I would like ANYONE to stick a camera into the face of these Arab and Muslim leaders who told their followers to help get trump elected because they didn’t think Joe Biden was acting fast enough or giving them the attention they wanted and ask them if their feelings are still hurt with news like this.

I’m sure the people of Gaza are so pleased with them and their stupidity

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Where are the many leaders that, deciding to withhold support from Biden and the Democrats, sought to INCREASE support for Trump? I don’t see them.

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Reducing support for one candidate lowers the threshold for the other to win, so staying home absolutely supports Trump, same with voting third party thanks to our wonderful system here

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"Ah yes all those dead arabs happened because of the arabs.

They brought it on themselves really. What do you mean i’m a genocide supporter?"

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Both Trump and Biden/Harris are terrible choices for Palestine. Having said that, count the number of Palestinian casualties under Biden and the number of Palestinian casualties under Trump. I’ll wait.

Also count the number of weeks of ceasefire brokered by Trump vs Biden.

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I feel like you’d buy a bridge from me.

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If your bridge is as useless as your comment, probably not.

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Wait when did Trump broker ANY ceasefire?

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A couple months ago when his envoy, Steve Witkoff, made Netanyahu meet him during Shabbat despite Netanyahu’s objections, and pressured him to accept the ceasefire deal.

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The number of death in the last 3 month is comparable to the number of deaths in the last 4 years, is that what you are saying?

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No, it is not comparable in any way shape or form. There have been hundreds of thousand of casualties under Biden’s presidency.

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BuT dOn’T vOtE fOr GeNoCiDe JoE!!1!1! ThE PrIcE Of EgGS!1!1!

And the trump admin wants to build seaside resorts in the purged Gaza then told us to STFu about eggs while the price more than doubled.

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I sure hope everyone who said “Genocide Joe” and “Kamala is a cop” sleeps well every night. Also those 100,000 Dem protest voters in Michigan.

You did it guys, you saved Gaza.

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How do you sleep knowing you voted for a genocider and still lost?

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I’m sure those astroturfed, troll farm tools absolutely sleep fine.

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Democrats a year ago: Shut up about Gaza! there is no genocide, you are just being dramatic.

Democrats now: Ohh, poor gaza, why aren’t you doing anything about them? This is all your fault!!!

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TF rock you been under? I have yet to encounter a dem, especially here, who hasn’t called Gaza some version of an open-air concentration camp run by Israel. Yeah, elected tools softballed the F out of it, but here you are… “DeMs BaD!1!1”. Same old shit. Pound sand with your appeal to hypocrisy.

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There are far too many people on this earth who can only imagine black and white.

They can’t imagine you can have bad and you can have much worse and they are not the same thing.

Edit - in case the downvote wasn’t someone who voted trump to “save Palestine”, my point is you don’t save someone from bad by giving them worse. Which we did.

And not “voting for bad” while allowing worse is performative privilege.

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My friend in lebannon got widowed last year.

Who was in power in the US then?

Americana trying to defend thair country and leaders are making my blood boil. We know, you guys can do even worse, it does not excuse the bad.

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I love how the people that told you a year ago to shut up about Gaza because it was hurting Biden are now trying to guilt trip you about Gaza

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I don’t care who gets bitchy over this;

America chose bald faced fascism and genocide, over the chance to end genocide and not-fascism.

Suck eggs, whenever you can save up for them. The stay-at-homes are just as guilty.

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There was no chance to end genocide.

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Grater than this 0% ? Sure was.

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Not with pro-genocide centrists running against pro-genocide fascists.

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It was always 0% because genocide is bipartisan.

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What makes you think there was a non zero chance with Harris? Anything she said or did? Because I got no indication from her campaign that there was any chance she’d end it

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Yes there was: not voting red or blue

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Voting is not going to be what ends the genocide.

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That was the false sense of superiority choice, not the end genocide choice.

You have to consider the choices’ actual effects on the world.

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Well, that’s what happened and now you get extra genocide plus total capitulation to russia

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America chose bald faced fascism and genocide, over the chance to end genocide and not-fascism.

There was no chance under biden or harris that the genocide would end without running to completion. None. They’re both centrists, and genocide is the only policy I’ve never seen a centrist abandon.

Voted harris but refuse to carry water for genocide supporters.

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One of the parties is against the genocide in Ukraine. Funny how you people always forget about that one. Bit inconvenient for your narrative huh

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What do you mean by “you people”?

Because in another recent discussion we had, you called me a russian, had that comment removed by the mods, and then whined about how unfairly you were being treated by the complicit mods for enforcing their rules.

This sure looks like you’re trying to call me a russian again without saying it outright.

We should have used all the resources that we wasted supplying the genocide that centrists dearly love in Gaza and used them to shore up Ukraine. Instead, netanyahu got his weapons no questions asked, while Ukraine had to wait for democrats to play stupid games with immigration bills first before getting around to the tiresome obligation of making a token gesture toward preventing putin from steamrolling Europe.

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Suck eggs = children are dying and I’m gloating over it.

Anything to own the lefties though, eh.

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Sorry your blue team proto-fascists couldn’t contain their disgusting bloodthirst enough to win the election from the red team fascists. Think outside of this bullshit electoralist thinking for just a second.

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I’ll vote so hard for the 3rd party next time! Just your wait and see

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Read the last sentence again please

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Lol. You people are so silly.

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Sorry your favorite genocider lost. But hey At least you can find comfort in the fact the other genocider was worst.

Fucking loser

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Nuance.

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You got the genocide you wanted either way. Now you get the bonus of being able to blame the people who tried to warn you what was going to happen.

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Stopping the genocide was never a choice in the table with the red and blue party

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